Before I get started, I'm going to preface this huge wall with this:
This post contains my answers with the corrected mindset.
Yes, I am aware this is massive backpedaling. No, I don't care.
Arathos:
What if it's more complex than that? Why aren't you curious to figure out that little mystery, like what powers and abilities his role REALLY had, or why he was so eager to be lynched if he was town?
I'd like to reopen this discussion. It was wrong of me to dismiss this as rolefishing.
After a bit of thinking, I may have found Zrk2's actual wincon.
First, there's that one line.
"I 'just want the pain to end'. That's verbatim."
Then, look at what Talos Gravesong said when he was lynched:
"Not like this! I didn't want it to end like this!"
What other ways are there to die in this game?
You can either be lynched, or you can be killed.
I'm thinking. his wincon was him getting NK'd.
Vector:
If you have trouble with this line of questioning, why didn't you bring it up at first?
Because I didn't have trouble with it at first. Then I started seeing things that weren't there.
Why are you writing so choppily,
I guess I was pretty worried. I'm not exactly sure why, but it probably comes from the other game I'm playing.
and how are you missing the fact that Arathos is asking you about your strange degree of certainty?
I don't find my certainty very strange at all. Maybe because it's my reasoning, but I don't see anything strange about it.
Besides, what are you being distracted from, exactly? Thumb-twiddling?
Okay, you caught me on my bluff. I'm not the only one doing nothing, though.
Why would neither vanilla townie nor scum know anything of it?
If I had seen the above in the day end text earlier, I would've facepalmed at this point. There's no reason we can't try to logically piece together a dead person's role or wincon, but there's no way for us to be 100% sure until the end of the game.
That's probably why my certainty is strange.
So, you're saying that your flavor information told you nothing at all about anyone else?
Funny, that.
Er, no. My flavor gave me plenty of information on you, and even said that I should consider you town.
Toaster:
This bugs me. Why do you think he was a townie? All we know is that he's not a jester- he didn't flip any sort of a wincon or alignment.
See my revised answer to Arathos, above.
Also, do you explicitly know your wincon?
What I said about this before still applies; My flavor says I'm inclined to help the town in whatever way I can. I'm going to assume that means I'm a townie and the regular win condition of no third parties or scum being alive at the end still applies.
This post reads "Okay, got your questions, now let's talk about someone that's not me now!" Why don't you want to talk about your own actions?
I'd love to talk about my own actions. At the time I was beginning to throw up a big cloud of bullshit; and yes, there's no reason for me to do that. What the fuck, brain?
Why would a scum have a vague role PM like that?
Because it's a semi-bastard mod? Why are you answering questions with WIFOM?
Oops. Yeah, actual reasoning for that above.
That's great and all, but asking several people their top pick is bottom-grade scumhunting, used when you don't actually have any opinions of your own... which I'm thinking is the case. Right now you're voting Urist for "ignoring you" and an accusation of rolefishing that, as far as I can tell, is a complete invention on your part. So really, what's your case on him? Who else do you suspect and why?
The question was meant to cause people to do more scumhunting and it damn well served it's purpose. You're all on the wrong target, but you're still scumhunting. My case on arathos at that time is an utter heap of bullcrap, and my newest, serious cases are at the bottom of this post.
Jack A TYou done fucked up.(paraphrasing)
What the fuck, brain!?!I didn't miss it, I didn't forget it, I have no idea why I said it.
Dariush:
Are you blind, stupid or simply haven't been here on D1?
None of those; NUKE defended himself against your reasoning and you never brought it back up.
I'd still like to know
what you were doing here. It doesn't look like scum or flavor hunting.
NUKE:
This. Dariush was right about it; it was an OMGUS and you overreacted. You have a right to be mad, but you shouldn't be "Fuck you and anyone related to you, die in a fire." mad. It also sounds like one of my more recent posts. "Dariush is plotting! He has a plot to look town!"
3. You voted Zrk immediatly after his Jester claim and abandoned whatever (shreds of) scumhunting you were doing previously. That implies you're simply looking for a way to get through the day with an easy target and aren't really worried about finding scum.
3. You assume that I stop scumhunting the instant I find a lynch target. This assumption is wrong.
Except that's exactly what you did; After you voted Zrk2, you made two posts. One was advice to Zrk2 about how to best get himself lynched, the other was this defense. I don't see any scumhunting in them.
Nuke AND Dariush: That's only a scumslip if I actually have huge holes in my flavor.