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Re: I just realized something
« Reply #30 on: September 17, 2011, 02:41:12 am »

">>There is suspiciously large number of conflicts including fights, knifing, gunfights in my dreams. <...> Even in school I fought only once, where does it all come from?

So, many of you have previously heard such term as “Libido”, though usually it is associated with sex. Now then, there is another thing called “Mortido”, and we will discuss  these important concepts of our mind.
Let me define both words.
Libido is a desire to create. The highest manifestation of Libido is creation of a child.
Mortido is a desire to destroy. The highest manifestation of Mortido is murder.
But there is an interesting nuance here. Libido and Mortido can be directed both outward (creation of a child/murder of a human) and inward (self-perfection/suicide). There is important to understand that it`s useless to struggle these things. They can be presented as two constantly filling scales in RPG, and it is necessary to drain them off constantly, because if one of the scales is full, the SHIT will happen (severe mental disorders, breakdowns, suicide). Draing of the scales is usually uncounsious and can take the most bizzare forms.
Mortido, directed outward, can be expressed as scandals with family, dirty tricks with friends, unreasonable hatred to something. Directed inward, it takes forms of smoking, alcoholism, not maintaining appearance and hygiene.
Libido, directed outward, can take form of creating something, drawing, art... And inward it will look like self-improvement, for example, visiting the gym.
All this is intertwined with complexes, perception models etc., so it`s important to understand that Libido and Mortido are not something separate, they are parts of a huge and complex mechanism called “human mind”."
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« Reply #31 on: September 17, 2011, 12:31:30 pm »

Having a discussion on psychology is a lot like having one on politics: No one's going to agree on anything, because nothing's concrete.  Anyone who tries pulling off a psychological nuance as fact is probably misinformed or too educated for his own good.

Not to say psychological theories are completely ridiculous.  It's based a lot on observation and some crude experimentation.  Coming up with something concrete in psychology is like trying to figure out how someone cooks just by using your sense of smell and hearing.  Sure, you can get a pretty good idea, but you'll never have a perfect understanding - And no matter what, your cooking just smells better than everyone else's.

So, psychology isn't a silly science, but psychologists that claim they understand some aspect of the human mind perfectly are silly scientists.
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« Reply #32 on: September 19, 2011, 01:55:40 am »

too educated for his own good.

What does this term mean, exactly? If somebody knows more on a subject than I do, are they too educated for their own good?
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« Reply #33 on: September 19, 2011, 03:28:33 am »

If they claim to know exactly all that lies in the minds of men, then they are a mind reader, not someone who knows alot about psychology.
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« Reply #34 on: September 19, 2011, 10:56:24 am »

too educated for his own good.

What does this term mean, exactly? If somebody knows more on a subject than I do, are they too educated for their own good?

It's a personal opinion on how a select few people can take an education and make it something much more than it really is.  It's not my way of describing people who know more about something than me - There's plenty of those out there, and it'd be a little silly to see a college freshman like me telling them that they "know too much". ;)

So, I'm not trying to say that learning "too much" is inherently a bad thing.  On the contrary, I think an education is extremely important.  It's more of a problem with how certain people treat the knowledge they've acquired like there's nothing beyond what they know.  They assume they're irrefutable experts on the subject and and close themselves off from any new knowledge or opinion that contradicts or diverges from what they "knew" beforehand.  So, in a sense, they become so infatuated with what they know that they close themselves off from what they don't, because in their minds there's little or nothing that they don't know.  They've learned too much for their own good, because they've closed themselves off from off from an important part of the learning process: The knowledge that, in spite of everything you know, you're still ignorant.  You can never know everything.  Forgetting that leads to intellectual disaster.

One example the way some professors grade papers - If you agree with whatever political jibberwock they've put out: Good job!  You went along with what the professor knows due to his or her undeniable and vast repertoire of experience and knowledge.  You passed!  If you happen to respectfully disagree... Well, you disagreed with the facts with your obviously ignorant and foolish opinion.  You should straighten that out by next semester.

Not everyone's like that - Not by a long shot.  The people who get to that point are relatively rare.  Most people can learn as much as they want and still be cool, approachable and interesting, as long as they don't let what they know get to their head.  So to speak.
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Re: I just realized something
« Reply #35 on: September 24, 2011, 09:56:05 am »

Sounds normal to me.
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« Reply #36 on: September 24, 2011, 11:35:58 am »

If we're talking about freudian psychology I'd like to point out that while he laid the foundations of a lot of modern psychology and had some very interesting insights, he was also often full of crap and believed that everyone, like him, was obsessed with sex. This is what you'd call projecting.  :P
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« Reply #37 on: September 25, 2011, 05:42:19 pm »

You know what this Mortido and Libido thing reminds me? Dementia and Mania in Shivering Isles. It was an expansion for Oblivion. If you played it you know what I mean.

Anyway, we still don't exactly know how and why dreams happen. Having a dream is like taking a dump. You just empty the trash from your unconcious mind.
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« Reply #38 on: September 25, 2011, 06:26:36 pm »

Forsaken, I think you empty your Morbido with your avatar.
Better?
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