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Re: I just realized something
« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2011, 03:27:17 pm »

"Life is change, chaos, filth and suffering. Death is peace, order, everlasting beauty."
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Re: I just realized something
« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2011, 03:29:34 pm »

Huh... I guess my life-jar must be super full and my death jar is always empty then because I don't dream or think about death.

Unless... I empty it by playing video games?

I HAVE STUMBLED UPON THE SOLUTION FOR ALL VIOLENCE

Somebody asked that doc about emptying aggression bar with games too, but I don`t remember the answer...
Generally Mortido can appear not only as dreams, but for example in smoking, nails-biting, other self-agression (if directed inside the personality) or yelling at somebody (if directed outside). 
Libido vial can be emptied by creating something - art, etc.
It seems this is all I can recall :)

While i would love to take martial arts lessons, the navy just keeps me too busy, im not even back in the barracks until 2000 at night and that's if i don't have watch.

Wow. From my experience, military guys usually do not have problems with too full Mortido  :)
I dunno. If you like this theory, try finding some more information about actions that will fulfill your death drive.
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Re: I just realized something
« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2011, 05:06:35 pm »

Huh... I guess my life-jar must be super full and my death jar is always empty then because I don't dream or think about death.

Unless... I empty it by playing video games?

I HAVE STUMBLED UPON THE SOLUTION FOR ALL VIOLENCE

Only if the video game was about taking care of animals and never hitting them.

So Nintendogs.
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Re: I just realized something
« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2011, 05:08:17 pm »

Only if the video game was about taking care of animals and never hitting them.

So Nintendogs.

You are doing it wrong. It is the death jar. The death jar is full of death. You need to empty the death. You do not empty the death with Nintendogs.
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Re: I just realized something
« Reply #19 on: September 11, 2011, 02:08:06 pm »

Only if the video game was about taking care of animals and never hitting them.

So Nintendogs.

You are doing it wrong. It is the death jar. The death jar is full of death. You need to empty the death. You do not empty the death with Nintendogs.
You do if you're playing it right.

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Re: I just realized something
« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2011, 02:17:03 pm »

Yes. Everyone dies at some point, it is the only constant. Thus your dreams should have a higher amount of it then anything else if they are to be logical.

You forget taxes, and stupid.

Not everyone pays taxes, and people are not stupid.

I wouldn't worry too much about it. I often have surreal and dark dreams as well, and several people think I am a healthy, upstanding guy.

Well most people are not.
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Re: I just realized something
« Reply #21 on: September 11, 2011, 03:41:14 pm »

Heh, I read that as you quoting him and saying, "Well, most people aren't stupid."  Had to reread that a couple times.

I generally don't have death dreams.  I remember one fairly clearly - I was in an argument with someone (He was dressed like a gangster), and I turned around, knowing full well that he'd shoot me in the back if I did.  Two shots went into my lower back, one into the upper.  I fell, bleeding, and as I was dying I was waking up.  When I opened my eyes, I looked around, and vowed that I'd never turn my back on someone I was having an argument with.

Apparently, some guy named Berne really liked thinking about Freud's Mortido.  From Wikipedia: "Berne considered that 'guilt and the need for punishment mean...the unsatisfied tension of inwardly directed mortido', and that when the latter gets out of hand 'the mortido inwardly directed caus[es] a depressive or melancholic episode'."

So, in order to clear out my Mortido vial, I need to not feel guilty and deal out punishment?  Or do I need to be punished?  Is getting a full vial the result of doing violence, or doing too much?

Psychology's so confusing.
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« Reply #22 on: September 11, 2011, 05:49:02 pm »

 How odd; although Freud kickstarted psychology, I thought all of his theories and ideas had been completely debunked serveral times now by both learning and working psychologists.
It`s Freudian psychology IIRC, I`ve read this on medical forum... the guy asked something like "why so much violence in my dreams?" too and he got this answer from a doctor.
So I would like to see this thread you're talking about; could you post a link, or at least give us a few more keywords to work with?
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Re: I just realized something
« Reply #23 on: September 11, 2011, 07:20:51 pm »

Oh god, I remember when I was 6 years old and I had a nightmare EVERY DAMN NIGHT!
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« Reply #24 on: September 12, 2011, 01:48:59 pm »

So I would like to see this thread you're talking about; could you post a link, or at least give us a few more keywords to work with?

This was a couple of years ago, I cannot even find the forum itself now :)

BUT

I`ve found nice explanation of Libido and Mortido in a thread, dedicated to lucid dreaming, on an imageboard. The explanation is pretty simple and involves computer games analogy too

BUT

it will take some time for me to translate it :)
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Re: I just realized something
« Reply #25 on: September 13, 2011, 12:34:11 pm »


I HAVE STUMBLED UPON THE SOLUTION FOR ALL VIOLENCE
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Re: I just realized something
« Reply #26 on: September 13, 2011, 10:56:08 pm »

Kind of debunks Jack Thompson's argument, huh?
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Re: I just realized something
« Reply #27 on: September 16, 2011, 11:20:54 am »

Kind of debunks Jack Thompson's argument, huh?
I guess so. I mean I'm one of the least violent people evar in my day-to-day life... I guess it's because I do horrific things to tiny digital men. Yay
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Re: I just realized something
« Reply #28 on: September 16, 2011, 06:46:00 pm »

Forsaken, I think you empty your Morbido with your avatar.
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Re: I just realized something
« Reply #29 on: September 16, 2011, 10:43:14 pm »

Yeah...  Sometimes, when he posts, I just watch it, trying to figure it out.

Like, seriously.  What's going on?!
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