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Republican

5 (6%)

Democrat

8 (9.5%)

Libertarian

11 (13.1%)

Undecided/Independent

38 (45.2%)

Other (Anarchist, Communist, Green, ect.)

22 (26.2%)

Total Members Voted: 84

[Bauglir]

Global Warming is Liberal Propaganda. The Earth heats up and cools down naturally.
That is my opinion.

I never knew Liberal Propaganda was a proper noun.  Is there some organisation that has to certify something as Liberal Propaganda before it counts?

Yes. I registered the trademark last week. I am making so much money now. Just all of it. Thank you, intellectual property!

[DeathsDisciple]

All right, you're trolling.  Have a good evening.

I'm not trolling. This is a Debate, just because I don't agree with you does not mean I am trolling.     

[Pistolero]

Science is liberal propaganda. Cars go by magic, fire isn't hot, and if you say otherwise you're probably a commie. You're going on the list anyway.

[Vector]

Well, either you're actually 12 and you should probably get back to doing your pre-algebra homework, or you're above 12, lying, and need to fix your source-citations.

[DeathsDisciple]

Well, either you're actually 12 and you should probably get back to doing your pre-algebra homework, or you're above 12, lying, and need to fix your source-citations.

I am 12, and very political.

Science is liberal propaganda. Cars go by magic, fire isn't hot, and if you say otherwise you're probably a commie. You're going on the list anyway.

I am anti-comunist, and by liberal propoganda, I mean the liberal media in American is spreading these lies.

[Vector]

Fine.

You're 12, and you need to fix your source-citations.

[Aqizzar]

This is a Debate

You keep using that word.  I do not think it means what you think it means.  You propositioned the point that the American income tax as currently implemented and enforced by the IRS is illegal.  Counter arguments have pointed to the standing laws that say those things are legal.  Your rebuttal was "no it's not" and some hack personal websites that you obviously didn't read.

Of course, now knowing that you've haven't stepped foot into so much as a highschool civics class yet, much less ever had to pay taxes, kinda renders anything you have to say on the matter irrelevant anyway.

[Il Palazzo]

I'm loving this thread. Please, do carry on.

[Eagle_eye]

I am anti-comunist, and by liberal propoganda, I mean the liberal media in American is spreading these lies.

whoa, whoa, whoa. Slow down. do you actually know what communism is? Because nothing even remotely close to it is endorsed by mainstream media, which itself is actually relatively rightwards leaning compared to the full spectrum of political positions available.

[Pistolero]

I am anti-comunist, and by liberal propoganda, I mean the liberal media in American is spreading these lies.

Maybe you should stop paying attention to the media and start reading the studies. The earth is currently heating up fifty times faster than it ever has before. That's not a natural cycle. Rather than trust the television and the internets, trust the facts. Here's a fun one: scientific studies present the facts, with the scientists conclusions clearly separate. This allows you to draw your own informed conclusion. Right now you're drawing what is known as an uninformed opinion.

[Bauglir]

... Aaaaaaand I just checked his age. Much as I hate to judge people by age, his arguments do seem appropriately naive for the age. I'm sorry, dude, but unless you're a prodigy of the kind who spends time reading law books instead of talking on forums, you don't have the background knowledge to argue this convincingly. That's not to say you have nothing to contribute. I'm sure you do. But you should really wait until you've at least had a high school government course, and ideally some economic knowledge, or at least educate yourself without using anything that could be termed an article. That goes for encyclopedias, too. Get yourself a college-level textbook or three if you want to get familiar with this sort of thing.

Without at least a basic education, you're discussing the half-truths, simplifications, and overt lies that get floated around by people who don't know better. You typically don't need such education to deal with your daily life, but it's important if you want to contribute something to political debates, or else concepts like the contradictions between social conservatism and libertarianism don't make sense because you define those words differently than I (and most others) do.

[DeathsDisciple]

This is a Debate

You keep using that word.  I do not think it means what you think it means.  You propositioned the point that the American income tax as currently implemented and enforced by the IRS is illegal.  Counter arguments have pointed to the standing laws that say those things are legal.  Your rebuttal was "no it's not" and some hack personal websites that you obviously didn't read.

Of course, now knowing that you've haven't stepped foot into so much as a highschool civics class yet, much less ever had to pay taxes, kinda renders anything you have to say on the matter irrelevant anyway.

Just because I'm 12 does not mean I cannot give a debate. I give my opinion, I give ny evidence. Wether it is right, or you believe me, is up to you.

[Aqizzar]

You are correct, and I apologize for saying that being 12 makes you incapable of arguing your point.  What has made you incapable of arguing your point is finding and elucidating even one piece of genuine evidence in support of your position.  You really need to grasp how important that is.

Gotta walk before you can run buddy, but you've got moxie and I respect that.

[Eagle_eye]

I think the issue here is that DeathsDisciple probably doesn't seek out actual statistics or information, and thus all his opinions are fueled by what those around him are saying. Please, go do some research, and come back with real, provable facts.

[DeathsDisciple]

Amazing what you Liberals think, isn't it!