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What is your affiliated political party? (U.S.)

Republican
- 5 (6%)
Democrat
- 8 (9.5%)
Libertarian
- 11 (13.1%)
Undecided/Independent
- 38 (45.2%)
Other (Anarchist, Communist, Green, ect.)
- 22 (26.2%)

Total Members Voted: 84


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Vector

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Re: Political Debate (U.S.)
« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2011, 07:09:39 pm »

This thread seems to be a place where you look for other libertarians, since it is not as though you have advanced any topics for debate or responded to anything anyone was actually saying.

If that is so, perhaps it should be repurposed.
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Re: Political Debate (U.S.)
« Reply #16 on: September 05, 2011, 07:10:19 pm »

Well, I voted other. I completely agree with Libertarian philosophy as I understand it, I just find that I almost never agree with the party's policies. That's often because I'm okay with a government that is powerful in many ways, because it's often the least terrible option as far as keeping people free goes. This also means that I'm okay with higher taxes, particularly on the wealthy (again, lesser evil).
My friend, that is not Libertarian. Government can not do anything right. I believe that the Government should only protect us from the Evil Communists from China.
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« Reply #17 on: September 05, 2011, 07:12:21 pm »

This thread seems to be a place where you look for other libertarians, since it is not as though you have advanced any topics for debate or responded to anything anyone was actually saying.

If that is so, perhaps it should be repurposed.
Very sorry about that.

Very well! What are your views on Gun Control!
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« Reply #18 on: September 05, 2011, 07:14:29 pm »

Oh boy, here comes this thread again.

I'm for Philosopher Kings, as long as I get to be king!

I really wish I knew the wording to that Nietzsche quote, that no matter the specifics, every philosopher who imagines an ideal government imagines himself at its head.  I consider it a truism for all discussion of politics.
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Re: Political Debate (U.S.)
« Reply #19 on: September 05, 2011, 07:23:05 pm »

My views on Gun Control:
I believe that we should be able to have any type of weapon at your home and be able to conceal any type of handgun in public.
After all statistics show that more guns=less crime.

Proof?
http://polyticks.com/polyticks/beararms/liars/moreguns.htm

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Re: Political Debate (U.S.)
« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2011, 07:28:58 pm »

My friend, that is not Libertarian. Government can not do anything right. I believe that the Government should only protect us from the Evil Communists from China.
And yet I believe that individual freedom is the highest good a government (or any authoritative body) can promote. My understanding is that this is the philosophical basis on which stands Libertarianism, and the reasoning used to arrive at policies they have.

As for gun control:

Yes, provided effective regulation (stricter requirements for more extremely effective weapons). The licensing procedure for a handgun? Just contact information and not having committed a felony. A nuclear arsenal? A majority vote on the part of the citizens of your nation certifying your reliability and trustworthiness to handle the responsibility, along with a thorough background check.

What? If it's good enough to determine who gets to be President, I'm sure it's good enough for this >_____>
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Re: Political Debate (U.S.)
« Reply #21 on: September 05, 2011, 07:29:00 pm »

Everyone should be able to carry any weapon they want, wherever they want. If they want to carry around a personal nuclear missile, let them.
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« Reply #22 on: September 05, 2011, 07:32:06 pm »

Everyone should be able to carry any weapon they want, wherever they want. If they want to carry around a personal nuclear missile, let them.

Yes, carrying around nuclear bombs to the grocery store is always a great idea.
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« Reply #23 on: September 05, 2011, 07:33:20 pm »

Would guarantee no crime. Actually, better idea. Permanently wire a thermonuclear device to everyone which is set to go off if they are threatened.
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Re: Political Debate (U.S.)
« Reply #24 on: September 05, 2011, 07:33:43 pm »

To be fair, it would be all but impossible to detonate them in the grocery store while you're carrying them around. Even deliberately.
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Re: Political Debate (U.S.)
« Reply #25 on: September 05, 2011, 07:36:20 pm »

Would guarantee no crime.

You make an assumption of universal rationality and self-awareness.
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« Reply #26 on: September 05, 2011, 07:38:47 pm »

No. Just that when all the cities are levelled, there will be no crime.
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« Reply #27 on: September 05, 2011, 07:39:27 pm »

Would guarantee no crime.

You make an assumption of universal rationality and self-awareness.

This.

Or on the other hand [ninja'd]:

No. Just that when all the cities are levelled, there will be no crime.
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« Reply #28 on: September 05, 2011, 07:40:04 pm »

... I'm sorry, I thought that someone who wants to become a priest would value human life somewhat more than that implies.
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« Reply #29 on: September 05, 2011, 07:40:07 pm »

I don't have a party because I am not American.

Does that mean I am EVIL?
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