Bay 12 Games Forum

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  

Author Topic: Buying a new computer need help deciding. ($1,100 and under)  (Read 1175 times)

CT

  • Bay Watcher
  • Gah zombies!!
    • View Profile
Buying a new computer need help deciding. ($1,100 and under)
« on: September 02, 2011, 12:29:18 pm »

So I am getting a new computer in a few weeks and I need some suggestions and i figured I would ask B12. It needs to be able to run new games reasonably fast and have internet capability. Laptop's are preferred but I don't mind desktop suggestions. Thanks everyone.
Logged
No, yep. That's what I meant too. I want to come out of the theater completely fucked up for weeks.

alway

  • Bay Watcher
  • 🏳️‍⚧️
    • View Profile
Re: Buying a new computer need help deciding. ($1,100 and under)
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2011, 01:29:43 pm »

For that price, you could probably build a desktop capable of running most games on high settings. How much is spent on each part would depend on various things like how much you want to future proof it. Assuming you are going to use Windows 7 as your OS, may as well set aside about $100 from your pool for that, leaving you with around 1000 for the hardware [even using a free OS like Linux, you're probably better off trying to spend $1000, as you will probably find something which you really want for just a little bit over the budget you set for yourself].

A video card costing about $200 should be able to run just about anything on high settings with acceptable framerates; be sure to compare cards and their reviews/benchmarks before buying, though for that price you typically want the high end card from a generation or two behind the most recent generation of cards.

Power supply and motherboards should be chosen to match the connectors for various other parts as well as how much future-proofing you want in your system. For a power supply, get one rated for much higher power consumption than your system, as the lower a percentage of it's maximum you use, the longer it will probably last; the higher wattage, slightly more expensive varieties also tend to catastrophically fail (taking half your components with it) much less often than the cheap ones. If one comes with a case you buy, you should almost always toss it for one bought separately, as the ones which come with are often pretty low quality, and thus prone to failing. For the motherboard, be sure it is compatible with all the stuff you need, and depending on how much future-proofing you want, more advanced parts and connectors as well. These two combined should probably be about $250 ($100 or less for the power supply, somewhere between $100 and $200 for the mobo).

A good CPU can be found for about $150. By this point, you should decide whether to go with AMD or Intel; when I bought mine, AMD were a better price/performance for this price range, but be sure to research which to go with. Not sure if they're just hearsay, but I have heard rumors about AMD and Intel parts not working as well together than AMD/AMD or Intel/Intel, so you may want to consider buying both mobo and CPU from the same company. Personally I prefer AMD, but personal preference is mostly all it is.

The main purpose of the case will be to keep the components cool with secondary duties of keeping things organized, dust free, and looking bad ass to visitors. A mid tower should suffice, and these can be acquired for around $50-$80. The main thing to look for here is good airflow and durability of said airflow, noise can be a factor, but unless something is broken, the fans typically won't make too much noise.

4GB DDR3 memory should be sufficient; any less to too little, any more than 8 is overkill (even 8 is more than you need for just about anything). Be sure the timings match up [with the CPU, IIRC]. This should be under $100.

For the hard drive, I'll leave it up to you as to your priorities for that; IIRC, faster drive means shorter load times, and of course larger drive means more storage space. Though you will want the typical hard drive rather than the (at this point) prohibitively expensive solid state drives. Well under $100 here; and most modern components do support multiple drives if you need to add more space in the future. And with the rapid price decrease in hard drive space, you may even be better off going for relatively low storage space (for example around 250gb) and simply buy more when you need it at a much reduced future-price.

CD drive is up to you; I went with the cheapest I could find (under $20); you should probably do about the same unless you plan on writing to CDs (mostly pointless in an era of flash drives and ubiquitous internet). Just so long as you have one, you don't really need a good one.

Keyboards can be acquired on the cheap. I got mine from the local supermarket for $7.50, and not only has it survived for several years, but it is a pretty nice one as far as keyboards go.

You can get a good gaming mouse for about $40, possibly less, though this is mostly dependent on what type of mouse you prefer.

You can either go speakers or headset depending on where you will be using it (I use a headset, as I live in dorms and with other people around). Again, quality is dependent on preference; I personally get $15 logitech headphone/microphone set at Walmart since I'm not anything resembling an audiophile.

What monitor you will want will depend mostly on where you plan on putting your computer; an LCD monitor probably shouldn't cost you any more than about $200 unless you really want to go high end.

I think that's just about everything; you may have noticed the list adds up to more than the $1000 for hardware, but it's more of a starting point to work off of. I highly suggest making a list of parts and checking through thoroughly for compatibility before buying anything; and from there, replacement of parts based on prices can be done. newegg.com is a great place to check out if you are willing to build your own system as described above; especially because of their really nice return policies and customer ratings.
« Last Edit: September 02, 2011, 01:31:14 pm by alway »
Logged

shadenight123

  • Bay Watcher
  • Death. To all. Except my dwarves.
    • View Profile
    • My Twitter
Re: Buying a new computer need help deciding. ($1,100 and under)
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2011, 01:37:08 pm »

even better: to keep money out of the os, just get the hardware together and then go with Ubuntu.
or linux+wine.
have a look at Dell.com i usually buy all my pcs from there. if you're in america there was even another site...of which i can't recall the name...which even overclocked safely the pc for you...can't recall it.
Logged
“Well,” he said. “We’re in the Forgotten hunting grounds I take it. Your screams just woke them up early. Congratulations, Lyara.”
“Do something!” she whispered, trying to keep her sight on all of them at once.
Basileus clapped his hands once. The Forgotten took a step forward, attracted by the sound.
“There, I did something. I clapped. I like clapping,” he said. -The Investigator And The Case Of The Missing Brain.

Flying Dice

  • Bay Watcher
  • inveterate shitposter
    • View Profile
Re: Buying a new computer need help deciding. ($1,100 and under)
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2011, 02:28:29 pm »

Well, I got a Dell Inspiron 14R i5 core laptop which is pretty good both for actual work and for gaming. The only real caveat is that since it uses an Intel HD Graphics Accelerator, so it won't be running modern mainstream games, but it can run, among other things, Source games, most indie games, roguelikes, Total War: Medieval II, Homeworld, AoEII, etc. So if it doesn't have cutting edge graphics you can probably run it. 500GB of storage, 4GB of RAM, and as I recall Dell sells them for around $600 USD.
Logged


Aurora on small monitors:
1. Game Parameters -> Reduced Height Windows.
2. Lock taskbar to the right side of your desktop.
3. Run Resize Enable

nenjin

  • Bay Watcher
  • Inscrubtable Exhortations of the Soul
    • View Profile
Re: Buying a new computer need help deciding. ($1,100 and under)
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2011, 05:01:35 pm »

Quote
It needs to be able to run new games reasonably fast and have internet capability.

That's pretty much going to exclude laptops most laptops from 2010.

That said, Intel's new integrated mobile graphics chip should run new games....whether it runs them well is still up for debate. And of course you're going to pay a premium for top of the line mobility graphics.

For the same price you can get a desktop that is guaranteed to run it and probably be right at your budget.
Logged
Cautivo del Milagro seamos, Penitente.
Quote from: Viktor Frankl
When we are no longer able to change a situation, we are challenged to change ourselves.
Quote from: Sindain
Its kinda silly to complain that a friendly NPC isn't a well designed boss fight.
Quote from: Eric Blank
How will I cheese now assholes?
Quote from: MrRoboto75
Always spaghetti, never forghetti

Phmcw

  • Bay Watcher
  • Damn max 500 characters
    • View Profile
Re: Buying a new computer need help deciding. ($1,100 and under)
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2011, 02:31:12 am »

even better: to keep money out of the os, just get the hardware together and then go with Ubuntu.
or linux+wine.
have a look at Dell.com i usually buy all my pcs from there. if you're in america there was even another site...of which i can't recall the name...which even overclocked safely the pc for you...can't recall it.
Uh? Last time I used wine it did not go so well.

As for a laptop, try detting an I5 processor and whatever best graphic card you can find. Ideally a 540 or a 460 (but the later is likely to be ou of our price range) . I'm not quite sure of the performances of AMD/ATI so I'm not venturing there.

But for the price range you're giving, if you're going intel/nvidia this is what you should aim for. Acer is usuall competitive in this price range.
Logged
Quote from: toady

In bug news, the zombies in a necromancer's tower became suspicious after the necromancer failed to age and he fled into the hills.

ECrownofFire

  • Bay Watcher
  • Resident Dragoness
    • View Profile
    • ECrownofFire
Re: Buying a new computer need help deciding. ($1,100 and under)
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2011, 03:15:08 pm »

If you really want a good computer, just build your own. Every single prebuilt computer is overpriced to some degree, some quite a bit more than others (Alienware for example, horribly overpriced, stay far away).

I'd probably recommend this guide for parts.
Logged

Aklyon

  • Bay Watcher
  • Fate~
    • View Profile
Re: Buying a new computer need help deciding. ($1,100 and under)
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2011, 09:37:04 pm »

Holy giant image, CrownofFire. That is pretty useful though.
Logged
Crystalline (SG)
Sigtext
Quote from: RedKing
It's known as the Oppai-Kaiju effect. The islands of Japan generate a sort anti-gravity field, which allows breasts to behave as if in microgravity. It's also what allows Godzilla and friends to become 50 stories tall, and lets ninjas run up the side of a skyscraper.

Heliman

  • Bay Watcher
  • I knew you were coming. Nonetheless, welcome.
    • View Profile
Re: Buying a new computer need help deciding. ($1,100 and under)
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2011, 09:41:19 pm »

If you really want a good computer, just build your own. Every single prebuilt computer is overpriced to some degree, some quite a bit more than others (Alienware for example, horribly overpriced, stay far away).
If only I could buy their cases separately!
Logged

Aklyon

  • Bay Watcher
  • Fate~
    • View Profile
Re: Buying a new computer need help deciding. ($1,100 and under)
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2011, 09:43:40 pm »

Alienware does have pretty cool cases.
Logged
Crystalline (SG)
Sigtext
Quote from: RedKing
It's known as the Oppai-Kaiju effect. The islands of Japan generate a sort anti-gravity field, which allows breasts to behave as if in microgravity. It's also what allows Godzilla and friends to become 50 stories tall, and lets ninjas run up the side of a skyscraper.

nenjin

  • Bay Watcher
  • Inscrubtable Exhortations of the Soul
    • View Profile
Re: Buying a new computer need help deciding. ($1,100 and under)
« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2011, 09:57:35 pm »

One of these days I plan to go all handy man on my case and customize it.
Logged
Cautivo del Milagro seamos, Penitente.
Quote from: Viktor Frankl
When we are no longer able to change a situation, we are challenged to change ourselves.
Quote from: Sindain
Its kinda silly to complain that a friendly NPC isn't a well designed boss fight.
Quote from: Eric Blank
How will I cheese now assholes?
Quote from: MrRoboto75
Always spaghetti, never forghetti

ECrownofFire

  • Bay Watcher
  • Resident Dragoness
    • View Profile
    • ECrownofFire
Re: Buying a new computer need help deciding. ($1,100 and under)
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2011, 04:29:01 am »

Alienware does have pretty cool cases.
That is... true, yes. I'd totally buy one separately, just to fuck with people who think I bought one of the overpriced monsters.
Logged