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jc6036

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Inside Ring of a disc cracked.
« on: September 01, 2011, 04:05:03 pm »

So, the inside ring on my XBox 360 copy of left 4 dead 2 is cracked, and getting worse. Every time I play a campaign, (which is about 1 hour long) and take the disc out, the crack is slightly larger. Any suggestions as to how to stop this cracking? I don't really have the cash for a new copy at the moment, so that's out for now. Even then, I may just replace it with a copy of Deadrising 2, since I loved the first DR. Oh, right. My hypothesis on what is happening is that the disc heats up significantly when played, but the rapid cooling when taken out causes the cracks. Thoughts?
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Re: Inside Ring of a disc cracked.
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2011, 04:24:08 pm »

Xbox 360 discs are terrible quality. They crack themselves on the cases they're put in. The console itself (specifically its disc tray) does horrors to the discs.
Wanna see something really funny? Put a bad game in and switch the console position while playing. Everything is now dead.

The heat may indeed be what's causing it. I've never had cracks grow from playing, but it's entirely possible. If you put it back in its case, that's more likely the problem.
There's no real way to stop the process. You could try a tiny amount of glue or something in the crack, but I would recommend against this.
If your problem is the same as mine, the crack spreads really slowly, if at all. My Halo 3 MP disc cracked almost as soon as I got it, but it's worked fine for hundreds of hours of play.

The crack may not spread beyond the little plastic inner ring. I'd say you should just keep playing as you will. If the disc breaks, it breaks; there's not really anything you can do about it.

If you want to read about some silly ways that may or may not work, do a Google search on it. The results can be amusing.

I say ignore it until you can't play your game anymore. It happens. :)
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Re: Inside Ring of a disc cracked.
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2011, 04:29:19 pm »

Sir, I like your outlook on my situation. When it does eventually break, I'm just going to get Deadrising 2 anyways ^_^  yay for zombies! (And a multitude of ways to slaughter them)
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« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2011, 06:19:44 pm »

I've never done this to a disk...but to stop cracks in metal (and other materials) from enlarging, you drill a small, circular hole at the terminating point of the crack.  It spreads to force that would expand the crack around a larger area, essentially stopping the crack unless the forces causing it are really that bad.  Never tried this on plastic, but I've done it with metal and the physics imply it should work on anything that isn't too brittle in the first place.

Alternately, you could try filling the crack with epoxy and hoping for the best.  Be careful using cyanoacrylate (super glue) because I don't know what kind of plastic these things are made of.  Cyanoacrylate can actually cause certain types of plastic to literally burn.  As in fire.

Personally, I suggest the first option so long as the crack hasn't reached game data.  It's just a more reliable technique, if the situation allows it.
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Re: Inside Ring of a disc cracked.
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2011, 02:57:10 am »

Don't use glue. The difference in weight distribution can damage the axle when it's spinning really fast. Drilling a hole would be my first guess, as well.
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Re: Inside Ring of a disc cracked.
« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2011, 04:00:49 am »

can't you download the data from the disc ON the xbox360? :/ or is the storage too little? or is it even possible to do so? (got no clue, but if they give you gb of memory on the xbox 360, there has to be a reason)
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Re: Inside Ring of a disc cracked.
« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2011, 05:58:41 am »

Yes, it normally is possible to install the game. . . .with a hard drive. Apparently, the fine print on the back of the box states that the 4 gbs of memory is "internal flash memory only" and one can only install games on a hard drive (sold seperate from the cheapest 360 slim model), and it angers me to no end.
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« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2011, 06:09:55 am »

I'm not sure I would put a visibly cracking disc into a dvd-drive (or whatever the xbox uses. HD-DVD?). Isn't there a risk it'll just fragment into the drive as it's revving up, ruining the drive itself?
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« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2011, 06:22:48 am »

That was another of my concerns, since the cracks are spreading in a way via may very well release a triangular piece.
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Re: Inside Ring of a disc cracked.
« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2011, 03:58:35 pm »

That was another of my concerns, since the cracks are spreading in a way via may very well release a triangular piece.
If you're feeling a bit underhanded you could buy a copy from a second hand store, and return it the next day demanding your money back.
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Re: Inside Ring of a disc cracked.
« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2011, 04:07:11 pm »

That was another of my concerns, since the cracks are spreading in a way via may very well release a triangular piece.
If you're feeling a bit underhanded you could buy a copy from a second hand store, and return it the next day demanding your money back.

in italy you can't even do that trick. you only get a "cash bonus" for something. so you don't get the cash back.
and sometimes, they say they will repair it and give you another one. So you end up with two of them? you can always "bring it back" afterwards...but meh. :/
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Re: Inside Ring of a disc cracked.
« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2011, 04:28:04 pm »

Aye, if the cracks are too many/big, STOP.

My cousin's PC exploded from a broken disc, I remember playing Caesar II and next thing we know, the PC Drive explodes and sends three cd fragments flying so hard they embed themselves in the wall halfway across the house.

Now imagine sharp, hot fragments of plastic hurtling towards your face at ridiculous speeds, not to mention bits of metal and whatever else is in the 360.

FUCK THAT.
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Re: Inside Ring of a disc cracked.
« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2011, 04:39:15 pm »

While there is a second hand game store in my town, they currently do not have a copy. We have wal mart for new games, though I prefer the gamestop the next town over. So the underhanded trick is out. My best bet right now is just to play it safe, and stop when the cracks are too large. Online research indicates that it might be the hologram thing on the sub-inside ring weakening it, along with bad disc retainers in cases, and xbox 360s pummeling discs whilst trying to get them on the spinner thingie. Fuckin Microsoft.
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Re: Inside Ring of a disc cracked.
« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2011, 04:43:21 pm »

While there is a second hand game store in my town, they currently do not have a copy. We have wal mart for new games, though I prefer the gamestop the next town over. So the underhanded trick is out. My best bet right now is just to play it safe, and stop when the cracks are too large. Online research indicates that it might be the hologram thing on the sub-inside ring weakening it, along with bad disc retainers in cases, and xbox 360s pummeling discs whilst trying to get them on the spinner thingie. Fuckin Microsoft.

i once had panzer II
inserted the disc in the pc (the old one)
i heard a : SCREEEECH SCREEECH
then a : TUMP TUMP
when the disk exited, it had actually been raped. it was all scratched in circular motions, and had a really big BOTCH on the side of it.
explanation: the thing which usually goes in the central hole of the disk had missed, and thrown the disk in a really uncomfortable position. Were it was then raped to death by the rolling motions.
my pc actually still worked fine, but i had to throw away the disk.
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“Well,” he said. “We’re in the Forgotten hunting grounds I take it. Your screams just woke them up early. Congratulations, Lyara.”
“Do something!” she whispered, trying to keep her sight on all of them at once.
Basileus clapped his hands once. The Forgotten took a step forward, attracted by the sound.
“There, I did something. I clapped. I like clapping,” he said. -The Investigator And The Case Of The Missing Brain.

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Re: Inside Ring of a disc cracked.
« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2011, 05:07:49 pm »

can't you download the data from the disc ON the xbox360? :/ or is the storage too little? or is it even possible to do so? (got no clue, but if they give you gb of memory on the xbox 360, there has to be a reason)
You can "install games" from the disc to your Xbox hard drive. This means that you copy down a lot of the data, but you will always need the disc to play, and it still gets read.
If you're concerned, this might be good, as the Xbox runs a little less hard and the disc is read less. Sounds like you don't have the space.

If this were a PC game, I'd recommend that you stop playing and get the disc fixed. I have little concern or care for Xbox hardware, though. It's far more likely to die on its own that from something you do to it.

when the disk exited, it had actually been raped. it was all scratched in circular motions, and had a really big BOTCH on the side of it.
This is almost exactly what happens if you tilt an Xbox while it's reading a disc. (Minus botch, a word I don't know.)
There's something wrong with that, Microsoft.
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