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[guitarxe]

I've got my dwarves wearing metal armour only, but I think in rl during the medieval times soldiers would wear some kind of leather or fabric padding under the armour. So is there any benefit in DF to have the dwarves also wear some leather armour under the metal armour? And can they even do that?

[nogoodnames]

Yeah, they can (and unless instructed otherwise dwarves will wear all the civilian clothes they can under their armour) and the extra padding does provide increased protection. The wiki has a bunch of information on how to optimize armour.

[Jelle]

Yes they can, but I think it's important to note there's a difference between leather clothes and leather armor, leather clothes under armor should be no problem, but I don't know to what extent you can layer leather armor under metal armor.
That said leather clothes should offer some extra protection as well, but honestly if an attack manages to get through metal armor I'm not sure of leather will offer much resistance after that.

[agvkrioni]

I tried this in the object testing arena and could get a dwarf to wear a breastplate, two mail shirts, greaves, high boots, one or two pairs of low boots, a cap and a helmet, and his gauntlets. So I went to my fortress world and changed their uniform to have all these things, then manufactured all these things. And they still won't wear them.

[Ipslne]

I tried this in the object testing arena and could get a dwarf to wear a breastplate, two mail shirts, greaves, high boots, one or two pairs of low boots, a cap and a helmet, and his gauntlets. So I went to my fortress world and changed their uniform to have all these things, then manufactured all these things. And they still won't wear them.

Have you tried specifically assigning the armor to each individual militiadorf?

[agvkrioni]

Ah, I found out that after every single change to a specific uniform type, you have to go back and reassign said uniform to your dwarven squad (or to individual dwarves) or they'll keep wearing the old version. Fixed now. And yeah, they're decked out.

Now if only we could build gas masks.

[Urist McDwarfFortress]

I tried this in the object testing arena and could get a dwarf to wear a breastplate, two mail shirts, greaves, high boots, one or two pairs of low boots, a cap and a helmet, and his gauntlets.

Can't you put mail leggings on under the greaves and mittens under your gauntlets as well?

[FrisianDude]

Wait, three pairs of boots? Clunky. And I always assumed mittens would go over the gauntlets, if you'd wear them at all. "Mitten" sounds large and round to me, while gauntlets would be articulated as I assumed them to be finger-gauntlets.

And I assume mittens are of leather/fur seeing as they seem to be meant against cold in DF. Not that mail mittens would be worn beneath a gauntlet, but anyway.


I'd rather like it if gambesons (or aketons, if you prefer) of padded/quilted cloth would be available as a substitute in leather-rare environments. Would be not illogical because those were more common than leather armour in the real middle ages but I shan't ask for realism.

[Saladman]

I limit myself to not doubling up on any one item like 2 mail shirts or 6 cloaks, which does open up space to equip leather "padding" (clothing) in addition to metal armor.  I haven't done any real testing, but the wiki claims there's no absolute difference between armor and clothing except materials and sometimes coverage.  Note that not all clothing is created equal, so it's worth it to check the wiki to see what has the best coverage.  Robes especially seem oddly good if you're not doubling up on cloaks.

So one uniform I've used is metal chain shirt, breastplate, helm, greaves, gauntlets, and high boots, with leather shirt, robe, trousers, skirt, cloak, cap and hood.  I picture them something like knights with tabards on in that get up (except shorter, greasier and dwarfier).