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Re: Evolution: Origins [Sleek Futuristic Jellyfish]
« Reply #540 on: October 19, 2011, 09:52:50 pm »

Worm DNA String Dump
- Tough Membrane (Tougher is better!)
- Light Muscles (Could improve flexibility when combined with skeletal system)
- Stubby Pseudopods (If it is better than our current system only)
- Simple Digestive System (If it is better than our current system only)
- Simple Circulatory System (Would help transfer of material from cell to cell)
- Rudimentary Vision (If it is better than our current system only)
- Simple Poison Glands (Why not have an alternative to enzymes?)
- Simple Spines (Toxin Injecting) (See above.)
- Long Body
- Segmented Body (Could improve cell organization.)
- Cartilaginous Skeleton (This could improve stability.)

(( + Anything else you think a simple/medium worm would have. In-between a nematode and fictionally advanced oligochaete or simple polychaete. Those would be the squiggly worms and the bitey hardish-shelled worms. :P))

Assimilate the bolded DNA.
Italiced DNA is to be considered.

Yeah, we could prolly do all right without the Long Body. As for the Stubby Pseudopods, I'm fairly sure our pseudopods are better.

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« Reply #541 on: October 19, 2011, 09:57:01 pm »

As I said, if it might be better than our current DNA sequences.

Though it might have a place without replacing the current sequences, perhaps as a more efficient enzyme bomb launcher?

Or as a bomb in and of itself?
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Re: Evolution: Origins [Sleek Futuristic Jellyfish]
« Reply #542 on: October 19, 2011, 11:11:32 pm »

A bomb would cause too much collateral damage should be be stuck in close range. Expect to be stuck near and/or inside of large creatures a lot >_> How about we evolve a rudimentary version of the nerve centers that electric crabs and eels and such have, allowing us to emit a high-voltage electrical shock into the water around us? This should effectively stun and harm any creature that comes at us. :D


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« Reply #543 on: October 19, 2011, 11:15:18 pm »

We've used them before to great effect. This one would just be... bigger, and more controlled.

Also:
A bomb would cause too much collateral damage should be be stuck in close range.

Should be be stuck?
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Re: Evolution: Origins [Sleek Futuristic Jellyfish]
« Reply #544 on: October 20, 2011, 12:01:46 am »

Worm DNA String Dump
- Tough Membrane (Tougher is better!)
- Light Muscles (Could improve flexibility when combined with skeletal system)
- Stubby Pseudopods (If it is better than our current system only)
- Simple Digestive System (If it is better than our current system only)
- Simple Circulatory System (Would help transfer of material from cell to cell)
- Rudimentary Vision (If it is better than our current system only)
- Simple Poison Glands (Why not have an alternative to enzymes?)
- Simple Spines (Toxin Injecting) (See above.)
- Long Body
- Segmented Body (Could improve cell organization.)
- Cartilaginous Skeleton (This could improve stability.)

(( + Anything else you think a simple/medium worm would have. In-between a nematode and fictionally advanced oligochaete or simple polychaete. Those would be the squiggly worms and the bitey hardish-shelled worms. :P))

Assimilate the bolded DNA.
Italiced DNA is to be considered.
Tough membrane is nice, but keep our current membrane knowledge, our membranes may have very specific requirements so acquiring as many samples as possible seems valid.
Muscles... they are sort of vulnerable, snip them anywhere along their length and they are likely to rip themselves apart if they are used. I would rather work on something involving individual cells rapidly adjusting their volume, crystallisation could be useful for this task.
I like stubby pseudopods, they would make a good mount for spikes and flagella. Just stick a flagella to one end, a spike to the other, and mount it on bed that crystallises over to sever the thing and we have an instant torpedo. Add a simple visual receptor and we could guide it to a target using a laser...
Digestive tract... I would rather not, it is just so boring...
Circulatory system? Definite big-no! We are going to transfer energy via internal lasers and maintain perfect efficiency with regard to waste-products. A circulatory system would just leave messy vestigial slivers strewn across our mass.
The vision is likely to have a different spectrum from ours, grab it and add it to what we already have, but maintain it in separate eyes so that we have redundancy against light-based threats.
Better to master enzymes than dabble in poison, but meh.
Toxin spines: Definitely, see the stubby pseudopods entry.
Long body should be easy enough to replicate later, and for now it would be awkward and exposed.
Segments... See above. It is a nice idea, but would complicate things in ways that we really don't care about at the moment.
Skeleton, definitely not, if we need a skeleton, we will have cells for a crystal shell. It will be easier to repair or adjust and can form complex rigid shapes that will be useful for our pressure-based kinetic system...
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Re: Evolution: Origins [Sleek Futuristic Jellyfish]
« Reply #545 on: October 20, 2011, 12:03:59 am »

We've used them before to great effect. This one would just be... bigger, and more controlled.

Also:
A bomb would cause too much collateral damage should be be stuck in close range.

Should be be stuck?

Should we be*
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Re: Evolution: Origins [Sleek Futuristic Jellyfish]
« Reply #546 on: October 20, 2011, 03:22:18 am »

What RAM said.

Also, the "The collective does not plan, the collective only increments complexity..." aspect of this format is actualy much more realistic than planing, since we're suposed to work like evolution.
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« Reply #547 on: October 20, 2011, 09:10:06 am »

What RAM said.

Also, the "The collective does not plan, the collective only increments complexity..." aspect of this format is actualy much more realistic than planing, since we're suposed to work like evolution.

If we're going for realistic evolution I think the only way to go is improve, after all we're an extremely long way from anything that makes sense, it's not even Lamarican evolution, I guess what we're doing is more intelligent design.
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Re: Evolution: Origins [Sleek Futuristic Jellyfish]
« Reply #548 on: October 20, 2011, 10:36:28 am »

If we're going for realistic evolution I think the only way to go is improve, after all we're an extremely long way from anything that makes sense, it's not even Lamarican evolution, I guess what we're doing is more intelligent design.

Aye. It is more along the lines of intelligent design. Otherwise, it'd be boring. :D
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« Reply #549 on: October 20, 2011, 01:06:12 pm »

If we're going for realistic evolution I think the only way to go is improve, after all we're an extremely long way from anything that makes sense, it's not even Lamarican evolution, I guess what we're doing is more intelligent design.

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« Reply #550 on: October 20, 2011, 02:42:42 pm »

yea, but it's closER than if we were planing competently.
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« Reply #551 on: October 20, 2011, 07:07:05 pm »

If we're going for realistic evolution I think the only way to go is improve, after all we're an extremely long way from anything that makes sense, it's not even Lamarican evolution, I guess what we're doing is more intelligent design.

Aye. It is more along the lines of intelligent design. Otherwise, it'd be boring. :D

I don't know, this seems pretty Larmarckian to me. "Hey look, a an ice cube. You know, if only I had a laser, then I cou-BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARG!
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Re: Evolution: Origins [Sleek Futuristic Jellyfish]
« Reply #552 on: October 21, 2011, 03:29:44 am »

considering that you have yet to develop any practical way of harnessing light, or the size to harvest enought to even be a nussiance to other beings, ide go for the electric shock defence and take all the bolded sections. we can simply improve or change on this later.

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« Reply #553 on: October 22, 2011, 11:21:43 pm »

*pokey pokey pokey*
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« Reply #554 on: October 23, 2011, 06:59:19 am »

If we can store enough energy to generate a dangerous electric shock then we can store enough energy to fire a L.A.S.E.R. burst...
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