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[ChairmanPoo]

I've been getting for a while engravings of X quality depicting engravings of Y quality for a while. Bug?

[MonsteR]

Just a quirk of the procedural system I believe. You can get artifacts with pictures of themselves on them, which I think is proof that dwarves are growing a lot more than plump helmets.

[ohgoditburns]

Dwarves will sometimes engrave a depiction of a dwarf creating a masterpiece. When your engraver routinely creates masterpieces, those get thrown into the pool of potential events for him to engrave.

[Eddren]

In fact, in late Fortresses, that may be ALL he engraves.
But then, in late Fortresses, you rarely have anything LEFT to Engrave.
..Still waiting for someone to engrave all 3 Caverns.
And the Magma Ocean.

[Quietust]

In real life, many people make their own renditions of particularly famous works of art. The same thing happens in Dwarf Fortress - most commonly, one of these famous works of art will be the symbol of your own civilization (in Boatmurdered, this is the most likely the explanation behind the engravings of engravings of cheese).

[Corneria]

I like to think they are big fans of Escher. It gets pretty awesome in the extremes, such as planepacked's numerous self-references.

[Berserkenstein]

Here's one from Norman Rockwell that's pretty darn famous.

Note the pictures of other famous artist's self portrait on the easel.

[Urist Da Vinci]

How many levels deep has this behaviour been observed? Can we get engravings all the way down?

Can masterwork engravings be renditions of themselves, or do they only make their history event after creation?

[Girlinhat]

I'm assuming that an engraving only exists after the engraving is made.  I'd say the same about artifacts, but that's obviously untrue.  Either way, I'd say that an engraving of itself is impossible, by virtue of what an engraving is.  An item with an image on it is still an item, even without the image.  An engraving that has no image, is simply blank.  An engraving of itself would be a black square inside a blank square -  there would be no content.

[Corneria]

I'm assuming that an engraving only exists after the engraving is made.  I'd say the same about artifacts, but that's obviously untrue.  Either way, I'd say that an engraving of itself is impossible, by virtue of what an engraving is.  An item with an image on it is still an item, even without the image.  An engraving that has no image, is simply blank.  An engraving of itself would be a black square inside a blank square -  there would be no content.

Dude, that's deep.

[EveryZig]

I'm assuming that an engraving only exists after the engraving is made.  I'd say the same about artifacts, but that's obviously untrue.  Either way, I'd say that an engraving of itself is impossible, by virtue of what an engraving is.  An item with an image on it is still an item, even without the image.  An engraving that has no image, is simply blank.  An engraving of itself would be a black square inside a blank square -  there would be no content.

You could have an engraving of infinitely nested square borders.

Also, cheese pics should show up more often.

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