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Re: I am fucking sick of life.
« Reply #105 on: September 07, 2011, 05:54:48 pm »

I am sick of being teased. I am sick of being trolled. I am sick of meeting assholes. I am sick of being laughed at. I am sick of everything.
And today I took it all out on my mom.
I just snapped and beat her and even got out a kitchen knife and threatened to stab her, all because she stared at me when I got angry at somebody online.
Maybe it's teen angst, but either way it's unbearable. I oftentimes - find myself wishing I could get up the guts to kill myself. Such as now.

Im not saying it to Troll,but you need help,not from forum bystanders,i mean real help,i recomend you to calm down,and read a book,draw something,listen to music,or anything,after you're calm,try to apologise and ask for help...real help not just a talk.
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« Reply #106 on: September 13, 2011, 06:54:40 pm »

Dunno if this is a troll or not, but if your serious I can understand. Havent taken that shit out on anyone in my family. But there was a time when I kicked the shit out of people that looked at me in a way I didnt like, mostly because i was angry and wanted to die. You have to find an inner peace, and learn to love people. Everyone is amazing. Fall in love with strangers and feel no fear. This is my advice.
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« Reply #107 on: October 01, 2011, 06:33:23 pm »

When angry, just remember these three quotes,

(1) An eye for an eye and the world goes blind.
(2) For a rainbow, you have to deal with the rain.
(3) Roses have thorns.


The first one I believe is the best one for you.
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Re: I am fucking sick of life.
« Reply #108 on: October 01, 2011, 06:51:56 pm »

Might I recommend taking up boxing, hockey, football, MMA, any form of Martial Arts to use that pent-up rage in a healthy manner that is still legal.

Stabbing=Bad, punching with a license=good.
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« Reply #109 on: October 01, 2011, 06:55:52 pm »

Catharsis pretty much always increases violent and angry behaviors, rather than decreasing them.
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« Reply #110 on: October 01, 2011, 07:07:03 pm »

Presumably stress balls are the exception, or that's actually sort of hilarious.
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« Reply #111 on: October 01, 2011, 07:07:56 pm »

Ah, catharsis not as in "any release of angry emotion," but "getting out anger and violence by practicing them on 'acceptable' targets."
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« Reply #112 on: October 01, 2011, 07:09:55 pm »

Right, yes, that makes sense. It's like that age old question: is there anything particularly dangerous about a sport where two people attempt to brutally bludgeon each other into submission?
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« Reply #113 on: October 08, 2011, 07:26:43 pm »

I don't think catharsis means what you two think it means.

The term is Greek for "purifying" or "purging". In the dramatic arts, it is used to signify an emotional cleansing, and generally comes about after moments of intense anger or other emotions. It is an incredibly hotly debated term due to its use in Aristotle's Poetics, under the following paragraph (using Preston H. Epps's translation):

Quote from: Aristotle
Tragedy, then, is an imitation, through action rather than narration, of a serious, complete, and ample action, by means of language rendered pleasant at different places in the constituent parts by each of the aids [used to make language more delightful], in which imitation there is also effected through pity and fear its catharsis of  those and similar emotions.

Epps has a lengthy footnote about this one, and he suggests checking out D. W. Robertson, Jr.'s "A Preliminary Survery of the Controversy over Artistotle's Doctrine of Tragic Catharsis" (1937). I've never followed up on it, though.

The definition is always the actual "release" (though that's still not accurate: it's a cleansing, which may come about due to a release), not the method by which this is done. The always-cited Oedipus Rex's catharsis is not Oedipus gouging out his eyes, it is the loss of control when he sees his mother-wife has killed herself. The eye-gouging is a side-effect of the catharsis, and not the other way around.

I wandered over to Wikipedia to see if there is another definition I am missing. It appears there is! It has been adopted by Freudian psychologists, who live in constant proximity to the term "Catharsis" as a result of Freud's interests in ancient literature and theatre (where the term was coined). This is probably where you got your idea of what the term means, Vector, but the catharsis is not the cause of the release of the anger and violence, but rather the side effect of releasing pent up aggression.

From what is mentioned on "Cathartic Aggression", it doesn't seem like taking up a sport actually would increase violent and angry behaviours. The downside to it is that it acts as a reward and encourages releasing emotion in this manner again. I feel like consistently wanting to release anger on a football field instead of on a parent is a good thing, but send me some documentation saying otherwise and I will give it a look.
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« Reply #114 on: October 08, 2011, 07:34:24 pm »

There's two versions, both of which I am somewhat conversant in.  The psychological version was as I said, where extensive studies implied what I stated (Psychology by Myers, 6th edition; maybe it's changed in the past 3 years, I don't know).  The theatrical version is as you say (I, too, have read Aristotle's Poetics).

Anyway, all I'm saying is that the "cathartic acts" of beating the shit out of people or things, emotionally or physically, have historically been shown not to lead to catharsis as you understand it.
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« Reply #115 on: October 08, 2011, 09:37:37 pm »

Can we all let this thread die now please?
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« Reply #116 on: October 11, 2011, 07:03:59 am »

Can we all let this thread die now please?
Naah.
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« Reply #117 on: October 11, 2011, 09:51:29 am »

Ways of coping are interesting. We all have our inner demons, and we all deal in our own ways.

I'd say the first step to coping is to know your demon, know it's you. You can't deal if you don't know what you have to deal with. From there it's just a game of keeping ahead of yourself to stop the wrong aspects coming into play when you really don't want them to.
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« Reply #118 on: October 11, 2011, 05:10:54 pm »

-coughs- Please lock this for obvious trolling. -coughs-
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« Reply #119 on: October 11, 2011, 05:43:38 pm »

-coughs- Please lock this for obvious trolling. -coughs-
Please do not bring up that argument again.
Everyone needs to let this thread die.
Can we all let this thread die now please?

A lock would be best, but I don't think that's going to happen. There's really no reason for posting here any more. Let it go.
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