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[Pelander]

I have met all of the requirements for a monarch.

I got a message saying his entourage had arrived and that my fortress was now a mountain home. The entourage was 4 legendary warriors and a peasant, but no king or queen.

It has now been a year or so since the entourage showed up, but still no king or queen. The nobles page no longer lists requirements to be the captial, nor does it list any king or queen.

My population is around 210, above my 200 cap, so I tried raising the pop limit to 250. Migrants have arrived since then, but still no king.

Did he die along the way? Did he changes his mind? I built a whole new section of my fortress to house the monarch -- should I give it to my duke or wait a little longer?

[Sphalerite]

Your king is dead.  He died in worldgen and no replacement was appointed.  You can't get a king in this save now.

Give the random peasant who showed up the custom title 'king' and assign the monarch's quarters to him.

[SpiralDimentia]

Good god man, pop cap of 250? How fast does your game run? Mine would probably melt if I had 250 dwarves on screen at one time.

[Pelander]

Give the random peasant who showed up the custom title 'king' and assign the monarch's quarters to him.

Oh hell no -- I'm not turning over my brand new royal aparments to some lowborn servant to a dead king. I think my duke is about to move up in the world.

Thanks for the info, though.

[Pelander]

Good god man, pop cap of 250? How fast does your game run? Mine would probably melt if I had 250 dwarves on screen at one time.

The only time I noticed any slowdown was when I dumped all of the loose stone in my royal aparments and about 20 dwarves went out of idle at once. Other than that I haven't had any problems.

I'm tempted to bump the pop cap up to 400 or so, just to see how big I can get this thing, but my fortress has chronic wood shortages, and I'm not sure we can make enough barrels for the brewers to keep up with 400 little Urist McChuggers

[Pelander]

I'm tempted to bump the pop cap up to 400 or so, just to see how big I can get this thing, but my fortress has chronic wood shortages, and I'm not sure we can make enough barrels for the brewers to keep up with 400 little Urist McChuggers

In perusing these forums, I just learned that dwarves can store booze in stone pots. THIS. CHANGES. EVERYTHING.

[i2amroy]

Good god man, pop cap of 250? How fast does your game run? Mine would probably melt if I had 250 dwarves on screen at one time.

Oh 250 isn't that bad, I can run that at about 30 FPS (like 20 during seiges/ambushes), now when you hit 300, then you start to run into problems...

[SpiralDimentia]

Good god man, pop cap of 250? How fast does your game run? Mine would probably melt if I had 250 dwarves on screen at one time.

Oh 250 isn't that bad, I can run that at about 30 FPS (like 20 during seiges/ambushes), now when you hit 300, then you start to run into problems...

I currently have 96 dwarves after setting my pop cap to 80, and my laptop slows down DRASTICALLY compared to when I started with 7. No where near unplayable but definitely not even a quarter as fast as it used to be.

[i2amroy]

Mine slows down as well, but operating with 250 at 30 FPS still beats 20 dwarves at 100 FPS (250x30=7500 frames of work per min vs 20*100=2000 frames of work per min)

[Jiopaba]

Except how much work do you really need?

Dwarves aren't like 100% efficient, so the more dwarves you have the more work is lost to useless crap like time spent idling or sleeping.  Twenty efficient dwarves working to accomplish your goals at a high speed can make it 'feel' like stuff is getting done a lot faster, and that's very important.  More importantly even is that fortress bloat is just kind of obnoxious.  What do you do with 250 dwarves?  Have like 100 important ones and then like 150 haulers probably.  There's only so much work to be done, and the more dwarves you get the more you have to micromanage to get the same efficiency, which is a pain.

So, I'd prefer the 20 dwarves.

[SpiralDimentia]

Except how much work do you really need?

Dwarves aren't like 100% efficient, so the more dwarves you have the more work is lost to useless crap like time spent idling or sleeping.  Twenty efficient dwarves working to accomplish your goals at a high speed can make it 'feel' like stuff is getting done a lot faster, and that's very important.  More importantly even is that fortress bloat is just kind of obnoxious.  What do you do with 250 dwarves?  Have like 100 important ones and then like 150 haulers probably.  There's only so much work to be done, and the more dwarves you get the more you have to micromanage to get the same efficiency, which is a pain.

So, I'd prefer the 20 dwarves.

So do I. The only reason I have the pop cap at 80 is because you need 80 dwarves for all the neat stuff, like being a Barony, capital, etc etc etc.

[Pelander]

So, I'd prefer the 20 dwarves.

I definitely agree that the game is easier with less dwarves, but for me, the fun in Dwarf Fortress is the challenge. I like having to constantly expand my dorms and food production to meet the demands of a growing fortress. I like it when a group of migrants arrives during a booze shortage or an ambush. And I love seeing my gigantic fortress swarming with dwarves.

[jrod]

when you have 250 dwarves you have the luxury of creating Fun. For instance: does anyone know the answer to the question "how many unarmed wrestlers does it take to kill a lion?"

When you have that many dwarves you can answer this question and many more!

[loopylung]

when you have 250 dwarves you have the luxury of creating Fun. For instance: does anyone know the answer to the question "how many unarmed wrestlers does it take to kill a lion?"

When you have that many dwarves you can answer this question and many more!

I know for a fact that on average:
A yeti +1 squad=2 dwarfs lost
A rhino +1 squad= 4 dwarfs lost
7 monkeys +2 squads= 14 dwarfs lost (most drowned in the river trying to catch the little buggers)
A lion +1 squad =4 dwarfs lost.
A random giant cyclops +4 squads and a demon diplomat from human lands with cave-in breath=15 dwarfs lost
Any other random giant monster +4 squads= 27 dwarfs lost
A goblin invasion +3 squads= Complete and total massacre
A human caravan +2 squads= 18 dwarfs lost
A human caravan with tons of booze+2 squads= 0 dwarfs lost

Where a squad is 10 untrained, unarmed, and unarmored dwarfs.

These numbers only include the dwarfs that died in combat, not the ones who were crippled and left to die by their heartless brothers. It also doesn't include those that are lost in the tantrum spirals and subsequent COTG crackdown.