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[Leonidas]

I wouldn't call them exploity, because to me it kinda makes sense. It's a bit like the 'danger room' they have in Kung Fu Panda. If I can explain it, I don't mind using it.

It is probably game breaking though.

I agree. The CONCEPT makes total sense. However, have you seen how FAST they train them? It's ludicrous. That's like saying if I dodge a spear for 10 minutes straight, I'll be the greatest fighter on tge face of the planet. I would use  them if they were MUCH slower, maybe just slightly faster than regular training. Probably not even that much, since an automated spear is much more easy to gauge where it's gonna strike compared to completely unpredictable living opponent.

Maybe it would balance if you did the danger room, but without the training spears. Put in real wooden low-quality real spears, take a few injuries, give your doctors some practice. Maybe that would work.

[SpiralDimentia]

I wouldn't call them exploity, because to me it kinda makes sense. It's a bit like the 'danger room' they have in Kung Fu Panda. If I can explain it, I don't mind using it.

It is probably game breaking though.

I agree. The CONCEPT makes total sense. However, have you seen how FAST they train them? It's ludicrous. That's like saying if I dodge a spear for 10 minutes straight, I'll be the greatest fighter on tge face of the planet. I would use  them if they were MUCH slower, maybe just slightly faster than regular training. Probably not even that much, since an automated spear is much more easy to gauge where it's gonna strike compared to completely unpredictable living opponent.

Maybe it would balance if you did the danger room, but without the training spears. Put in real wooden low-quality real spears, take a few injuries, give your doctors some practice. Maybe that would work.

Wooden spears are training spears. I could load them down with copper spears, but I could see me loading the troops up and then clicking the level once and

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[jrod]

unarmed, but still armored goblin pit training seems like a wonderful compromise between the horribly slow squad training and the amazingly fast but exploity danger room.

[SpiralDimentia]

unarmed, but still armored goblin pit training seems like a wonderful compromise between the horribly slow squad training and the amazingly fast but exploity danger room.

But see, regualr training isn't horribly slow for me. You don't HAVE to be legendary to kill a goblin. Often times I send a squad of poor-skilled but fully-iron-armored dwarves against a group of armed goblins that they only marginally outnumber. I take injures and maybe losses, but the survivors are that much better, and it gives my doctors life saving practice. Like I said, my dwarves are barely even 'great' skilled, but they steamroll ambushed and seiges like it ain't nothing. One of my dwarves even went into the caverns [I have no idea why, I didn't send him and there was no gear or anything down there] just to grab a crundle by the throat and punch it's brain out. Regular training is awesome. Danger rooms aren't needed.

[jrod]

goblins, sure, but what about that forgotten beast up from the depths? Your iron clad "great" skilled dwarves are going to become tasty snacks that come in a metal wrapper.

[SpiralDimentia]

I actually had a hill titan hop into base [motherfucker had WINGS. That's CHEATING.] and this was when I only had a single squad. His corpse is now resting comfortably in my refuse stockpile, and I had no casualties. Forgotten beasts and Titans aren't really a threat unless they rot your dwarves to goop with their blood. Since I started playing this game I find a group of goblins is a FAR greater threat than your average forgotten beast or titan.

[Endiqua]

Urist has been struck down.
Urist wasn't struck down, but he'll be talking awfully funny the rest of his life.
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Thanks, dude, coffee out the nose was just what I needed this morning.  I've missed your posts.   

[SpiralDimentia]

Urist has been struck down.
Urist wasn't struck down, but he'll be talking awfully funny the rest of his life.
Urist has been struck down.

Thanks, dude, coffee out the nose was just what I needed this morning.  I've missed your posts.   

Lol, you're welcome, I do what I can.


On a related note, it did occure to me that while FBs and Titans aren't must of a threat, I would like to say that despite my supreme confidence in my troops, I DO get a little nervous when a Bronze Collosus shows up. I haven't fought one in this world yet, but them and anything that can rot me to death are the only things I fear, and even then, some of my dwarves are hammer/mace dwarves just for such an occasion.