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Author Topic: Armor brought by the caravan does not exist?  (Read 1296 times)

Hypcso

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Armor brought by the caravan does not exist?
« on: November 01, 2007, 12:54:00 am »

As the subject suggests, I am unable to get my Military dwarves to equip armor or shields despite being set to. I've had a few full sets of steel chainmail/shields that I bought from the Dwarven Caravan several years ago go untouched by dwarves set to wear a shield and chain armor. Predictably, the survival rate for my recruits is about 30 days or less, since this is a waterless map so if they have to rest an injury they die of dehydration.

[ November 01, 2007: Message edited by: Hypcso ]

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Re: Armor brought by the caravan does not exist?
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2007, 01:46:00 am »

Update on this issue: Seems more serious than that, Upon removing the offending trade depot that was holding the items.. they DISAPPEARED. Yep. Gone. Not sure what happened to them, but after trading 20,000+ worth of goods for them i'm a bit peeved. Oddly, the steel bars that were left in the depot from the same caravan did not disappear and fell on to the ground properly.

Perhaps they were phantom items? I didn't notice this happening with weapons that I bought off of Caravans, in fact most of my wood cutters got their axes from caravans.

Also, They are not showing up in the stocks page so they really are gone.

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Re: Armor brought by the caravan does not exist?
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2007, 01:54:00 am »

Update to the update: It appears as if my dwarves have found the armor and are now pulling it out of the wall of a nearby house... How this is possible I do not know. Time will tell if my military dwarves will actually wear it now or not.

Edit: Military dwarves still refusing to wear the armor, the issue persists.

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Re: Armor brought by the caravan does not exist?
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2007, 04:33:00 am »

My armor pieces were just ignored and left to themselves in the depot...
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Re: Armor brought by the caravan does not exist?
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2007, 05:50:00 am »

Yup, Same problem here. Bad time for a hydra attack.. All my hastily conscripted miners and wood cutters died, as well as my swordsdwarves thanks to having no armor, leaving a single marksdwarf to land the killing blow.
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Re: Armor brought by the caravan does not exist?
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2007, 07:55:00 am »

Did you ever flood that area? You could have washed the stuff into the other building.
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Re: Armor brought by the caravan does not exist?
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2007, 08:15:00 am »

No, It's outside and there isn't an ounce of water on my map.
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Re: Armor brought by the caravan does not exist?
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2007, 12:19:00 pm »

I've also been having some issues with items that seem to exist and not exist at the same time. I thought it might perhaps be related to this. Mine didn't go anywhere near the trade depot though.

I have a raw fish that was caught by my fisherman, but he was interruped before he got it to the relevant stockpile. Now none of my haulers seem to want to touch it, and giving a 'prepare raw fish' order in the fishery tells me that there are no raw fish. It's been sitting there for several seasons now and it hasn't rotted. I can see it, but the game treats it as if it doesn't exist.

I also have a log that I chopped down right at the start of my fortress. It too didn't get moved into a stockpile, and now if I try to build something made out of wood in the tile right next to it, it tells me that the nearest log of that type is 86 tiles distant.

And a possible third case, I have a plump helmet that was harvested from my farm, but then immediately dropped. I haven't quite confirmed whether this item is truly bugged, or if my dwarves are merely slacking, since it happened quite recently (last season).

In all of these cases it seems that the problem arises when a hauling task is interruped in some way. I can see the item, and I can examine it with 'k', but none of my dwarves will interact with it in any way. Perhaps the items aren't being removed from the hauling tasks properly when the task is cancelled? Then the dwarves would forever treat the items as if they were already occupied.

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« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2007, 12:24:00 pm »

This may be related to the fact that items a merchant is wearing is also for sale, yet counts against the total weight brought by the caravan.  I'm betting that stuff the merchants are wearing doesn't get left behind properly.
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Re: Armor brought by the caravan does not exist?
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2007, 12:42:00 pm »

"So we'll take this yard of cloth, this axe, and your pants."

Something like that?

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Re: Armor brought by the caravan does not exist?
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2007, 01:07:00 am »

Any saves with this sort of thing would be welcome.
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Hypcso

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Re: Armor brought by the caravan does not exist?
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2007, 01:23:00 am »

Unsure if I still have the save, but I might.. Not sure how I would post it though. Don't know any file hosting sites.
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« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2007, 01:52:00 am »

http://rapidshare.com/files/66876790/DFSave.zip.html

Piled it on Rapidcrap, All I could think of. The armor is no longer in the Trade depot because I destroyed it, however my dwarves still refuse to use it, despite being perfectly happy wearing the armor i've crafted for them myself.

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« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2007, 12:19:00 pm »

http://rapidshare.com/files/66974107/Bugsave.rar.html

The trade depot still has the shield I got from the dwarves on the first year.  There are armor bins and a couple of dwarves with shield carrying enabled.

Also this file has the Head Merchant stuck in the fortress bug.  The dwarf merchants just left.  My Broker was on break and went to sleep for most of the time they were there.  I turned off all my jobs for the Dwarf in charge of the fort so that he could do the meeting.  This dwarf proceded to haul a bunch of stuff to the depot and cage animals while the Merchant followed him around.  THis probably took half 1/3 of a season.  Finally the Meeting took place in the statue garden where said merchant still is.

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Re: Armor brought by the caravan does not exist?
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2007, 08:10:00 pm »

All right...  I've downloaded one of them.  I'm delayed by 12 minutes for the next one, apparently.
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