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Heron TSG

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Re: Europa Universalis III
« Reply #2055 on: June 27, 2012, 10:09:37 am »

Expansion via colonization can be good, but I find that the AI is too pants-on-head retarded to contest the player across the seas, and they really need the income boost to be competitive in Europe. In my Burgundy game I've limited myself to a forward base on Prince Edward Isle (Neu Carolingia) and a half-dozen tobacco producing provinces in Brazil. I've spent the entire game protecting every single state in the empire from internal and external aggression, and haven't lost a single member. In about 5 years (currently 1555) I should be able to finish uniting the empire, at which point I'm just going to save edit a bunch of larger combined states in. (Combine Augsburg into Bavaria, etc.) I figure that way I'm not entirely unstoppable when I eventually release them for Victoria. (Though it's rather difficult to stop the juggernaut that is Max Attack 5 Military NI Burgundy.)
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Re: Europa Universalis III
« Reply #2056 on: June 27, 2012, 03:52:57 pm »

I never saw the point of colonizing the Americas. If you're a small nation capable of getting their quickly, why aren't you just focusing on becoming a trading superpower? It'll make you extremely rich having 5 merchants in every CoT. Meanwhile the Americas force you to deal with native tribes, take the pointless QftNW NI, ruin your tech speed, etc.

If you're a big nation, why not just blob? Europe is more lucrative then the Americas.
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« Reply #2057 on: June 27, 2012, 04:26:19 pm »

Because it's so worthwhile to see your glorious color spread across an entire continent. Everywhere else it's actually difficult and timeconsuming.
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Re: Europa Universalis III
« Reply #2058 on: June 27, 2012, 05:01:58 pm »

If you're a big nation, why not just blob? Europe is more lucrative then the Americas.

Infamy. It costs nothing but money and colonists to take most of the Americas. Unless you get lucky with available PUs, it's comparatively slow to expand in Europe, since you can only expand as fast as your infamy goes down. Not to mention that if you're not in the HRE you're gonna have a nightmare taking all those German OPMs
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Re: Europa Universalis III
« Reply #2059 on: June 27, 2012, 05:12:28 pm »

I guess I dont really pay attention to infamy. Its rare I ever take anything thats not cored; I absolutely hate rebels.
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Heron TSG

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Re: Europa Universalis III
« Reply #2060 on: June 27, 2012, 07:22:31 pm »

Technically speaking, a big enough blob doesn't give a shit about the infamy limit either. 200,000 troops constantly set to rampage through western Europe in 25,000 man stacks are usually enough to crush rebels before they become a major problem. (IE, before they gain morale or take provinces.) I actually find across-the-sea rebels more annoying because you have to build forts while garrisoning a province, because otherwise they can rebel and you'll lose build time and the province instantly.
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Re: Europa Universalis III
« Reply #2061 on: June 27, 2012, 07:46:58 pm »

Current playthough as Scandinavia. Nothing too exciting except Poland.

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Re: Europa Universalis III
« Reply #2062 on: June 27, 2012, 08:09:56 pm »

which mod is better Death or Taxes or MEIOU?
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Re: Europa Universalis III
« Reply #2063 on: June 27, 2012, 08:31:45 pm »

I never saw the point of colonizing the Americas. If you're a small nation capable of getting their quickly, why aren't you just focusing on becoming a trading superpower? It'll make you extremely rich having 5 merchants in every CoT. Meanwhile the Americas force you to deal with native tribes, take the pointless QftNW NI, ruin your tech speed, etc.

If you're a big nation, why not just blob? Europe is more lucrative then the Americas.

You really don't need QftNW. Just find a native tribe. You can kill them and take all their stuff for minimal cost, booth troop wise and infamy wise. Also I dunno about the Americas, but Africa and the indies are silly lucrative. They have all the best resources. It will take a while to get rolling but you will bring in the cash. And with the cash comes tech, I am both the biggest nation and one of the most technologically advanced.
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« Reply #2064 on: June 27, 2012, 09:15:34 pm »

Because it's so worthwhile to see your glorious color spread across an entire continent. Everywhere else it's actually difficult and timeconsuming.

This. Plus I have the added bonus of never being scared of enemies wiping me out, because there is now no way they can completely take me out. I have so many provinces that they would lose everything to rebels before destroying me.
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Re: Europa Universalis III
« Reply #2065 on: June 27, 2012, 10:06:02 pm »

You know what sucks? When you have fought six wars with France and four with Burgundy and it's 1480. At least I finally won the 100 Years War. Now I have to pull off the Hundred Year's War Pt. II with Burgundy having 80k troops and being in the HRE without being emperor. FUCK BURGUNDY.

BTW I'm England/GB.
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Re: Europa Universalis III
« Reply #2066 on: June 27, 2012, 10:49:26 pm »

which mod is better Death or Taxes or MEIOU?
I say D&T, it's closer than vanilla and doesn't slow the game down for me which meiou does.
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« Reply #2067 on: June 27, 2012, 10:51:46 pm »

Yea, D&T is pretty good. Its not very balanced though... I don't know if MEIOU is worse or not in that regard.
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« Reply #2068 on: June 28, 2012, 12:39:09 am »

I never saw the point of colonizing the Americas. If you're a small nation capable of getting their quickly, why aren't you just focusing on becoming a trading superpower? It'll make you extremely rich having 5 merchants in every CoT. Meanwhile the Americas force you to deal with native tribes, take the pointless QftNW NI, ruin your tech speed, etc.

If you're a big nation, why not just blob? Europe is more lucrative then the Americas.
Force limits.
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Heron TSG

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Re: Europa Universalis III
« Reply #2069 on: June 28, 2012, 12:55:10 am »

FUCK YEAH BURGUNDY!
Fixed that for you.

Spoiler: Behold, the empire! (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: The World! (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Europe (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: North America (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: South America (click to show/hide)
What's an Asia?

Why, tons of high-population cloth producing provinces in the Netherlands? Manufactories! Some fine Champagnes and Burgundies? Refineries! I BLEED MONEY.

Spoiler: At War With The World (click to show/hide)
This doesn't show half of it, though. I just finished beating Lithuania unconscious 2 years prior, causing Novgorod to jump on the corpse. Austria tried to annex Salzburg a year later, and while it put up a fight then, it went right along with the revocation of the privilegia. Cue the ultimate war. Half the empire (the allied but not in a war parts) rise up to fight me, only to get smacked down by one of my 17,000 man legions supporting the hordes of loyalist states. Savoy (peaced out now) brought in OPM France, which was finally annexed... but only after it brought in allies Provence, Castille, and Wales... which is tied to the hip to Great Britain. I beat Provence down pretty rapidly, but 2 months after this screenshot, GB and Norway jump me. Why Norway? Because fuck you, that's why! (Note that GB somehow inherited Sweden long ago and has since gained cores.)

Spoiler: Soldiers! (click to show/hide)
I'm down from my normal standing force of 153,000 men, but I technically have the capacity to double that. (You know, given more manpower and a hatred of money.)

Pretty easy war, all things considered.

As soon as I annex Aachen, the northeastern province of Britanny, and Alencon, Burgundy will probably maintain its borders for a while while War Exhaustion cools down. (Been at ~18-20 all game with brief interludes since I became the HRE.) The northern Canadian province is probably going to be sold to the Norwegians, because they so love worthless icefields. Nouveau Carolingia, the island off the coast of Amérique du Nord, will be held onto as a forward base for future operations in that hemisphere. I wasn't going to bother with Amérique du Sud, but I got a whole bunch of missions to start up colonies down there, and my economy has grown by about 500 ducats/year from the tobacco monopoly. I didn't even know I had an African colony. Huh.

When this war is over and I pass the certain-to-pass-due-to-mass-vassalization final reform, I'm going to instead reorganize the HRE into 6 lesser states under my wing, to make the political situation a little neater and not cause Burgundy to become The Eternal Juggernaut all the way to Hearts of Iron.

Pseudo-edit @Rakonas: Force limits? THE EMPEROR LAUGHS AT SUCH THINGS. (Seriously, I haven't come close to my force limit in this game in well over 100 years.)
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