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Azthor

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Re: Europa Universalis III
« Reply #1905 on: May 16, 2012, 07:49:59 am »

I rarely, if ever, use Hunt Rebels; as an example, in England, my standing army stack is too fond of staying put in the northernmost island, rather than dealing with the rebels currently  besieging London.
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Re: Europa Universalis III
« Reply #1906 on: May 16, 2012, 08:43:16 am »

Yeah, I've found "Hunt Rebels" to be pretty useless as well if you have a large empire. It'd be nice if you could set "patrol regions" for each army that they'd operate inside of.

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Was that in Divine wind? The pain!
No, worse. In Nomine. (Before there was a 'hunt rebels' option on the army panel.) I actually gave up about the time I hit Denmark. (~1550) I could have easily conquered the rest of the world, France having been shattered early on, but I didn't want to put up with another 8 hours of 'set speed to max. Wait three seconds. Pause. Send nearest army to fight the rebels. Unpause. Wait three seconds, et cetera ad nauseum.)
Heh, sounds like my Hindustan game once I imported it into Vic2. The great Jacobin Rebellion spawned 290 brigades (870,000 men). Pause, target any free army stacks on a rebel group, run forward at medium speed, fight, repeat.
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Re: Europa Universalis III
« Reply #1907 on: May 16, 2012, 10:18:48 am »

Eh, I use hunt rebels all the time. I never get super-goliath-megablob size though, so that might be why.
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« Reply #1908 on: May 16, 2012, 01:16:31 pm »

Hunt Rebels only works within a certain distance, so it's nearly useless out on the Steppes. Fairly useful in the denser provinces, though. It helps to have a whole bunch of armies spaced about so that there aren't any gaps.
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« Reply #1909 on: May 16, 2012, 02:00:56 pm »

How2play Japan? I'm doing decent with Shimazu. Have a vassal and annexed someone already. However, now that some years have passed, everyone is protected by cascades of guarantees.
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« Reply #1910 on: May 16, 2012, 03:25:48 pm »

invest in prestige, use it to forge claims on other clans with spies, wage war until all but one clan is left and you can unify Japan.  The Shogun menu is in the lower right, the same spot that the HRE menu is--you probably knew that, but I didn't for the longest time and things were pretty confusing until I figured it out.

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« Reply #1911 on: May 16, 2012, 05:05:45 pm »

Im in D&T so I get a casus belli on everyone from the getgo; the problem is declaring war on one = declaring war on them all :x

What I ended up doing is spending a few hundred years (and during those 200 years, not ONE war happened in Japan) colonizing, and then with my increased manpower, waging war against a few at once... obviously that's not really fun. I'd rather not have to wait that many years, and I'd rather Japan not be a sterile, peaceful land. Damn you, D&T.
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Re: Europa Universalis III
« Reply #1912 on: May 16, 2012, 07:01:54 pm »

my Pan-Asiatic Deccanese Empire
Was that in Divine wind? The pain!
No, worse. In Nomine. (Before there was a 'hunt rebels' option on the army panel.) I actually gave up about the time I hit Denmark. (~1550) I could have easily conquered the rest of the world, France having been shattered early on, but I didn't want to put up with another 8 hours of 'set speed to max. Wait three seconds. Pause. Send nearest army to fight the rebels. Unpause. Wait three seconds, et cetera ad nauseum.)
In nomine was actually pretty doable without the horrible infamy effects things didn't really get that bad (unless, yeah -3 stability constantly still hurt I guess).

The problem with using the hunt rebels option is that the stacks of rebels in asia (at least in India) get larger than what you can comfortably fight while staying under the supply limit. So if you have them just standing or walking around like they want your war exhaustion is going to skyrocket. In the end you have to do it manually anyway. And it's still a pain.  :-\

I've found hunt rebels option quite useful for smaller (perhaps overseas) areas though. But then there's usually not too many rebels there anyway...
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« Reply #1913 on: May 16, 2012, 07:32:40 pm »

Alright, restarted a Hosakawa, the largest daimyo. I have all of japan except 3-4 provinces, and even though I have the "unite japan" decision, whenever I take it those provinces dont defect to me and I am unable to sign peace agreements to get them. So I'll have to take them while I'm a daimyo and then unite.

Its going to take me 10-20 years though. BB limit is a terrible thing. I tried going over it and just blitzing... I could do it, but I really do not want to be dealing with stacks of 10 rebels every week and my reputation + legitimacy plummeting.
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« Reply #1914 on: May 17, 2012, 04:48:53 am »

Alright, restarted a Hosakawa, the largest daimyo. I have all of japan except 3-4 provinces, and even though I have the "unite japan" decision, whenever I take it those provinces dont defect to me and I am unable to sign peace agreements to get them. So I'll have to take them while I'm a daimyo and then unite.

Its going to take me 10-20 years though. BB limit is a terrible thing. I tried going over it and just blitzing... I could do it, but I really do not want to be dealing with stacks of 10 rebels every week and my reputation + legitimacy plummeting.

Interesting. I united when two Daimyo were not under my control, and I was capable of just using Reconquest five years later on.
Also, remember that you automatically inherit unions and vassals when forming Japan.

I united as Shimazu before Nationalism actually was available for the Daimyos, it took me quite a bit of time because of infamy, but not cascading alliances (much, those still were a pain).
Iirc the trick was building a powerful fleet, then getting the islands in the south protected by the narrow straits, and day-one declaring on the OPM daimyo right next to you. Also remember to colonize Taiwan instantly and Hokkaido later on.
There is a bit of luck involved in getting a good alliance partner or two to distract people a bit (I had Uesugi), but once I had control of the starting island, I was capable of grabbing the gold province and was pretty good to go. Although, the wars after that still were pretty evil.
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« Reply #1915 on: May 29, 2012, 06:03:36 pm »

Hey guys, I bought The Plentiful Paradox Package and I got this message from Amazon:

Congratulations, your order of "The Plentiful Paradox Package" has qualified you for a $23 promotional credit good towards the Digital Download versions of "Europa Universalis III Chronicles". This credit may be used once for $23 off this game from until 7/2/2012. To redeem your credit visit:

http://www.amazon.com/Europa-Universalis-III-Chronicles-Download/dp/B004SCRFZE/

EU III Chronicles include:

Europa Universalis III: Chronicles also brings the expansion packs Heir to the Throne and Divine Wind to retail shelves for the first time, deepening the experience and extending an already robust playing time.

Also include are the previously released expansions Napoleons Ambition and In Nomine


The price is $29 so less the $23 it is down to $6! It's a steal I'd say. I am just wondering if I can activate this on Steam since there is no mention of it on Amazon page.
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« Reply #1916 on: May 29, 2012, 07:01:33 pm »

I am just wondering if I can activate this on Steam since there is no mention of it on Amazon page.
afaik the only place you can get the Steam version of EU3(/expansions) is Steam.
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« Reply #1917 on: June 01, 2012, 08:37:53 pm »

God, DAMN. I've been trying out D&T with Byzantium, and god, you can't get away with ANYTHING past the first 10-20 or so years. Every OPM or TPM has like 5 Guarentees or Alliances from nations +15 provinces larger then me now. Lucky for me, I have alliances with both Serbia and Bulgaria right now, who can both field reasonably large arimes. Still, the only provinces I'm getting for a while are from revolters.
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« Reply #1918 on: June 01, 2012, 10:23:45 pm »

huh, I found Byzantium pretty easy. I've retaken all the byzantine cores except larissa and epirus, and I control about 2/3rds of asia minor. It's only 1380 or so.
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« Reply #1919 on: June 03, 2012, 11:08:25 am »

huh, I found Byzantium pretty easy. I've retaken all the byzantine cores except larissa and epirus, and I control about 2/3rds of asia minor. It's only 1380 or so.

I call hax. There is no other way you could have dealt with the Mamluks and Agaron without flipping the table and going insane. :P
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