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Re: Europa Universalis III
« Reply #1860 on: May 11, 2012, 09:34:13 pm »

Yeah, the Irish are in a baaaaad spot next to England who wants to nom on them almost as much as they want to nom on Scotland.
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Re: Europa Universalis III
« Reply #1861 on: May 12, 2012, 12:31:18 am »

Sometimes the first national mission they'll get is to conqure Ireland. They need something like the Highlander Charge event that the Scots get to resist the English or the whole British Isles need some sort of pusedo-Shogunate system so England can't just roflstomp the whole thing in a few years.

Other options could include Munster (or whatever that provence is) starting as vassal/personal union or if there's a pusedo-colonial independence movement where Wales/Ireland/Scots get massive nationalist movements. Ireland could also have "Unionist" rebels that either want to unite Ireland or join the British.
The Celts should really have a "Galloglaigh Mercenaries" national event that gives them X amount of income where they have a certain amount of units to help with their pitiful poor provences.

Anyone know of a mod that does anything vaguely like I said? Right now England is just too powerful and is in pretty much the best spot in the game.
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« Reply #1862 on: May 12, 2012, 01:07:00 am »

Yeah, I really can't stand how England often becomes GB not even 50 years into the game.
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« Reply #1863 on: May 12, 2012, 01:23:46 am »

There really is no way to avert it without historical inaccuracy. Their fleet is simply too strong and everyone else on the isles is too weak.
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« Reply #1864 on: May 12, 2012, 02:03:14 am »

There really is no way to avert it without historical inaccuracy. Their fleet is simply too strong and everyone else on the isles is too weak.
Actually from what I can tell in the 14th century the British navy wasn't all that strong, in fact it technically didn't even have one, the crown used independent merchantmen that were enlisted into service during times of war, or produced ships on demand that would be sold off after they were no longer needed.

That's not to say that England didn't have a decent amount of naval power at its disposal, it certainly managed to thoroughly flog France's fleet in the hundred years war. But it wasn't the naval superpower it is in EU3.

At least, not until much later.
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« Reply #1865 on: May 12, 2012, 03:05:49 pm »

There really is no way to avert it without historical inaccuracy. Their fleet is simply too strong and everyone else on the isles is too weak.
Actually from what I can tell in the 14th century the British navy wasn't all that strong, in fact it technically didn't even have one, the crown used independent merchantmen that were enlisted into service during times of war, or produced ships on demand that would be sold off after they were no longer needed.

That's not to say that England didn't have a decent amount of naval power at its disposal, it certainly managed to thoroughly flog France's fleet in the hundred years war. But it wasn't the naval superpower it is in EU3.

At least, not until much later.

By the 16th century the real naval superpower was Spain. Simultaneously, the large amounts of gold coming from America and the tercio also gave it land superiority. It is directly succeeded by GB and France, followed by Germany, as a superpower.

Also, playing Spain under Carlos I von Habsburg might as well be considered akin to cheating; you can simultaneously start with the Netherlands, Southern Italy, Central America, Austria in a PU and a nearly defeated France... Alternatively, depending on when you start, England is also your ally. Lamest start ever.
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« Reply #1866 on: May 12, 2012, 03:31:55 pm »

Yep, history is so unbalanced.

Death and Taxes gives the Irish significant military buffs vs. the British... if they manage to form Ireland. The minors can however form it without Meath and get Conquest CB on each other. As long as you don't get unlucky with England attacking you straight off the bat, you should be capable of forming Ireland really fast. Then, just bide your time until England is caught in a war it loses, and occupy Meath, or just fund rebels or something.
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« Reply #1867 on: May 12, 2012, 03:42:17 pm »

Yea, unfortunately they are one of the "Restart until your giant neighbor gets a mission that doesn't involve you" nations though, and I cant stand them. I want to always have a chance of pulling through.
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« Reply #1868 on: May 12, 2012, 03:46:10 pm »

From my experience, even if they declare on someone, it is somewhat unlikely they actually annex them. Furthermore, you can start with the bottom left Irish minor, England seems to never declare on them. (Probably because they are not adjacent to Meath.)
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« Reply #1869 on: May 12, 2012, 04:03:25 pm »

I've yet to not be annexed by england in a war of conquest against me. And I suppose so, but I like to start gobbling up the other minors right away. Like day 1 DoWs :P
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« Reply #1870 on: May 12, 2012, 05:58:49 pm »

For the first time in a while, I don't get a game, this one specifically. I just...how does it work?
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« Reply #1871 on: May 12, 2012, 06:18:34 pm »

Give us a specific question and we can answer it :P

It works like... risk? Kind of?

EU3 = Risk on steroids.
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« Reply #1872 on: May 12, 2012, 06:22:40 pm »

I suppose I will start a game with 1530 Spain and see how much time it takes to conquer the world; there is no challenge involved, although it is better than the HRE game I showed earlier, where all of Europe, GB and Iberian Peninsulae included, were vassalized before 1600.
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« Reply #1873 on: May 12, 2012, 06:33:59 pm »

For the first time in a while, I don't get a game, this one specifically. I just...how does it work?

Vague answer to a vague question. You lead a nation to glory and greatness! You pick a nation on a time frame between 1399-1821 and try to become the top dog. Some aspects include building up your infrastructure, waging wars, making alliances, colonizing and trading. UI wise it's one huge map with different filters (economic/politic/religious/etc.) where you move your toy soldiers and slide a bunch of sliders. And it's all real-time with pause.
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« Reply #1874 on: May 12, 2012, 07:41:40 pm »

...So it's like total war campain but in realt time and more complex?


EDIT: is this multiplayer?
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