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[Johnfalcon99977]

Also, if you have a surplus, mint as little as possible. Those are normally good chance to take your inflation down.

[inteuniso]

I'll have to post the final maps. Also, I may (if insane enough) try to use a savegame editor and manually tweak the converter output to see if I can get it running, since it did the really hard part (map conversion) without derping. Although it's a little odd to see things on the map like "Lubeckian South America" (The Hansa had a significant strip of colonies on the Brazilian north coast).

I'd even import it to Victoria: Revolutions if I could, but the converter for EU3-->Vic:Rev only worked up through In Nomine, I think. May try it anyways, just to see what happens. It's this kind of crap that makes me wish I still knew how to program, because I'd just hack up my own extensions to the existing converters to make them compatible with DW.

They do have a vicky 2 converter... and it probably is better then the vic: rev converter.

[Biag]

He said the Vicky II converter didn't really work. I am disheartened.

Speaking of Vicky, are there any mods that make smaller nations playable? I don't like to start out managing giant countries, but it seems like if I choose anything other than a Great Power I can't do anything without someone getting annoyed and curbstomping me.

[Mr.Person]

I don't want to be a dick, but if you're going to talk about Vicky2, please take it to another thread. You'll get more interest and more people who can give a good answer.

[RedKing]

He said the Vicky II converter didn't really work. I am disheartened.

It's not so much a "doesn't work" as "never got finished". It converts provinces and country tags (and appears to do so pretty flawlessly, even with derpy maps like mine where Spain never formed, India was a mess, the Teutonic Order was still around, etc. IIRC, Teutonic Order became Prussia, the Hansa became Lubeck, Savoy became Sardinia-Piedmont. And Castille became Spain, despite only holding about 10% of the Iberian peninsula at this point.

But it doesn't convert governments, buildings, armies, navies, or relations. And the bigger problem is that while it can be selected from the saved game screen (which is how I know what it did re: country conversion), it crashes when trying to load the save because there's too many things missing that the game needs. And the last movement on the converter, from what I can tell, was in Jan 2011. Unless there's another one out there I'm not familiar with.

EDIT: Okay, in looking on the Paradox forums, it looks like development is continuing, just really slow. And got derailed a bit by the House Divided update to Vicky II. Maybe I should see if I can contribute some ideas.

[RedKing]

So....starting a new game as Bihar. Want to try and rush Hindustan and unify India to resist the evil Westerners when they come to our fair shores. So far, mostly good. Created an eastern Hindu alliance with Assam, Orissa and Gondwana. Together, we roflstomped Bengal out of existence in the first couple of years and divvied up the land between us. This was actually kind of an annoyance, as I need ALL that land to form Hindustan. After a couple of decades, an expansionist Assam was plagued by rebels and overextended from fighting the Buddhist powers in southeast Asia. This allowed me to dodge out of an alliance when they called me for the umpteenth war against Ayutthaya and DoW them (no CB, but stab hits are a joke early on). Took all the provinces I needed, then used a series of "Royal Marriage with X" missions to drop my infamy down to minor levels.

Also mananged to get all of Nepal added to my domain. Delhi had taken it from Tibet (who had diplo-annexed Nepal). Used Religious Liberation to take it from Delhi, then used a Diplo Insult CB to go to war with Tibet and force them to relinquish all cores on me (and even forced them to convert to Hinduism). So my eastern and northern borders are pretty secure at this point.

It's 1440-something, and in India proper, there's basically a 3-way balance of power: Rajputana in the west, me in the east, and Vijayanagar in the south. Vijay is the biggest and strongest, but if me and Raj took them on, we'd probably win. Caught in the middle are an enlarged Orissa, and OPMs Khandesh and Ahmadnagar. Orissa actually has all the remaining provinces I need to form Hindustan, but I need to figure out a way to obtain them *without* drawing Rajputana or Vijayanagar down on my head, and potentially without invoking either as an ally and having them steal the provinces I need out from under me. I already have an alliance and RM, so I'm tempted to go the vassal or PU route, but that can be time-consuming and I really want to rush Hindustan to allow maximum time to build up before the Portuguese or whoever show up.

Once Hindustan is done, and I finish off conquering all the Indias, I should be solidly in place as a regional hegemon. The Timurids are doing their usual epic collapse, with Baluchistan, Khorasan and Persia carving out big chunks. Delhi is a minor state, as is Gujarat. For the most part, the Islamic states in India have utterly failed.

[Lumbajak]

I have absolutely no idea how to do Norway on very hard, I've figured that much out by now.

Not enough money to support a military at all, have to rely on colonization, and can only even reach Greenland and Eastern Canada, it'd take another century or so to reach the bulk of America.

And on top of that, I always inevitably end up in a hopeless war against an enormous Denmark or an enormous Sweden or England or the entire Empire or some crap.


The AI seems weird in this game. Denmark kept guarenteeing my independence and had the mission "Protect Norway" and whatnot and had no casus belli's on me, but then they'd always keep going to war regardless.

Admittedly, I've still no real idea how to take advantage of the attrition, I always hear it's as simple as scorching the land and letting them sit on that province for a while but it never seems to work.


At any rate, I decided to relax with a good ole' world domination game as France on very hard. Much, much easier, though I suppose that was to be expected.

[RedKing]

Norway's tough. In theory, you should hang back and just use the inevitable Danish-Swedish wars as you invitation to poach a few provinces from Sweden. But if AI Denmark chooses poorly, you can be left hanging in a bad way. Or if Denmark gets too big and makes the calculation that it doesn't need you anymore, or gets a "Integrate Norway" mission.

It would be interesting to try to rush a colonization strategy to get to Newfoundland, then move your capital there as soon as you get a core, and abandon the Old World provinces. Maybe even sell them to Denmark or Sweden for some nice cash. Then focus on building up a colonial empire, unencumbered by the intrigues of the Old World. By the time the English and the French really get around to trying to settle the New World, they'd find a wealthy "Vinland Empire". Dang, I might just have to try that at some point. 



My Bihari game continues to go well, if a bit behind schedule. Finally got all the provinces I need to form Hindustan as of 1476, but the delay in getting Chittagong means that it'll be 1526 before I can get a core on all of them and actually form Hindustan. I also managed to get Arakan, Malwa, and an OPM Delhi as vassals. I took Lucknow from Delhi after getting a core on it. Population and income were large enough that Kannauji instantly became an accepted culture, which is sweet.

For the most part, the eastern border is secure, behind a layer of satellite states like Assam, Manipur, and Arakan. To the north, Hinduized Tibet serves as an effective buffer between me and the eastern Mongol hordes. Delhi and Punjab serve as a border between me and Chagatai. In the subcontinent iteself, it's down to Bihar, Rajputana, Vijayanagar and a resurgent Gujarat. Rajputana has a better economy but weaker military and more threats to deal with (Baluchistan, Khorasan, Timurid remnants). Vijayanagar is kind of stagnant ecnomically (and no CoT), but has a potent military and no real threats. They have an avenue of expansion via Gujarat, but the ethnic polyglot of their northern reaches means constant rebellions by Khandeshis, Maharashtrans, Ahmadnagaris, Orrisans, and so forth. For the moment, I'm closer to Vijay than Raj (because I had to fight Raj in order to acquire Chittagong), but I think over time I want to weaken Vijay by supporting revolts, and draw closer to Rajputana. When Hindustan gets formed, I need to be able to take out Vijayanagar first, otherwise I'd have to deal with them while simultaneously dealing with the Muslim borders threats in the northwest.

It's been a fun game so far. Kinda realizing that the reason the AI never pulls off an Indian hegemon is the ethnic mishmash that is the subcontinent and the AI being unable to cope with revolts effectively.

EDIT:
1526, and a Hindustan is me! I managed to implode Vijayanagar by getting drawn into a war with them and bringing in Rajputana and all my minors as allies. Although the Vijay army was larger (about 45-55k to my 40k), and more potent due to higher land tech and the morale boost from Defender of the Faith, they had to split them into 15k stacks. Which I promptly jumped on with all 4 of my 10k stacks. Then hounded and harried the defeated army until I completely annhilated it. Rinse and repeat a couple of times, and within a year or two the Vijayanagar army was almost completely destroyed, and their war exhaustion off the charts. Only took a couple of provinces before ending the war because I had to deal with their allies in Taungu and Tibet, but even after peace was declared, they were in a bad way with high revolt chances all over most of their provinces. I helped nudge several into revolt by judicious use of spies (and with a five-year truce in place and them still rebuilding their army, it frankly didn't matter if they caught me, other than the prestige hit).

I think that really is the trick to beating a more powerful country--get them to split their forces, then jump them with all your troops at once, and hound that defeated stack until it's completely gone. I'll certainly get my chance to test that when the Europeans eventually show up. Now that I'm Hindustan, the next task is to use the Reconquest CBs it gives me to nom up all of India within 50 years. Then expand westward through Baluchistan until I'm bordering a Muslim tech country (probably Persia or the Ottomans) so I can westernize.

[Micro102]

I am bringing this question up once again, but this time a little more detailed

If you were playing England/GB, how many connected provinces/population would you want in the new world in order to make your capital in the new world?

[RedKing]

I think it's less about provinces or population and more about income. Take the amount you're getting in tariffs and do the math to figure out what it would be if your tariff percentage were equal to your tax percentage. If the tariff figure is higher, then move the capital to the New World.

That should hold true for any colonial power. It's also why AI Portugal often *will* move its capital to the New World, if they get a substantial presence there.

[Micro102]

There are 2 things that I believe that are preventing me from moving my capital. You don't get nearly as much from tariffs as you do taxes (so I don't know how to see if switching to taxes will give me more money), and your provinces need to be connected to get capital benefit.

[Rakonas]

There are 2 things that I believe that are preventing me from moving my capital. You don't get nearly as much from tariffs as you do taxes (so I don't know how to see if switching to taxes will give me more money), and your provinces need to be connected to get capital benefit.

tariffs are only used on provinces that are on a different continent, not those which are unconnected.

[Micro102]

Yes, but isn't SOMETHING lost when they are disconnected?

[Rakonas]

Yes, but isn't SOMETHING lost when they are disconnected?

I don't think so. Definitely nothing significant.

[Zrk2]

Yes, but isn't SOMETHING lost when they are disconnected?

Not if they're on the same continent.