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« Reply #1425 on: February 09, 2012, 08:03:48 am »

That said, I have almost 20,000 gold. I dont know what to do with it, so I'll probably just invest it. Investing is such a terrible use of gold though... even constantly building, rehiring armies, etc, I cant use it all >.< My income is ~300 when I have the minting slider all the way to the left, and ~700 if I bring it over enough so my advisor can cover the inflation.

If I mint 100% coin, I'm looking at 1700 a year... wow...

I dont get it, 300 - 700/year is nothing, really. Typical ~1500-1600 economy, depending on country you playing. Heck, in my recent Songhai game I had 600/y1600, zero inflation, full military maintenance/forcelimits. And thats a crappy africa.
And I really have no idea how you cannot spend it all, in my russia game I went up to the point when any manufactory costs ~7k and I had exorbitant income.
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« Reply #1426 on: February 09, 2012, 08:24:39 am »

You have 40k goddam manpower. When they declared war why didn't you just spam out 40 units? That's probably your problem.

Thats a terrible idea. You use your manpower as reinforcment engine, not as reqruitment instrument.

- keep your forcelimits to 100% all time, zero maintenance at peace times
- If you beaten, retreat&rejoice to 100% morale and numbers and go fight again.

Overall, building armies during war means awfull planning.
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« Reply #1427 on: February 09, 2012, 02:05:08 pm »

Humm, thanks for the tips guys! Especially about the heir thing. I didnt know you could check that; hopefully this will make my next europe game a lot easier.

In other words, Hindustan is overpowered. Every_single_territory is cored. I started in 1356, not 1399, so tis a little more understandable, but still. Started from Vigaygnarasdasblurbleflargle. Only big threat was Delhi... and... well, look at them now. I just pounced every time they went to war with one of the Hordes they bordered.

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2-3 province vassals are the best once you clear out the big armies. They get rid of rebels, siege 2-3 provinces at a time, have their own little navies, and uguuu its so cute. Ceylon, Orissa, and Sind were awesome vassals. I just had to limit Sind by removing their CoT. Its really nice to have a small nation that doesnt have their capital on their CoT.

Also, I feel bad, but jumping allies is pretty awesome. They usually dont have many more allies then just you, and you can usually dissolve alliance -> declare war before they get any more alliances flowing. I did that with Punjab, which held the top portion of my territories. Annexed for 0 infamy, woo! I'm going to do it to Deva-Bengal next. They keep pulling me into wars with the chinese, and I dont want Ming popping up at my doorstep.

Good on ya. I did a Vijayanagar game back in IN, before they added Hindustan as an option. I'd love to make a second go of it and see if I could build up strong enough to fend off the Europeans when they show their ugly pale faces.

Overall, building armies during war means awfull planning.
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(Loosely translated, "Winners win first, then go to war; losers go to war, then try to win.")
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« Reply #1428 on: February 09, 2012, 03:14:24 pm »

I try to keep enough troops on hand to white peace out anyone, but France will take some building no matter what. I always recruit more troops before a declaration of war.
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« Reply #1429 on: February 09, 2012, 03:18:20 pm »

Annnnd I now control (Except for a few select provinces I have as vassals) the entirity of the region of Hindustan. I'm just going to lay low for a couple centuries now, I have 35/44 badboy :P

Sucks that I'm bordering a horde though (Chogtai, is it?). Not really a threat, but enough to make me have to move troops around to counter them.
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« Reply #1430 on: February 09, 2012, 05:06:59 pm »

Just demand tribute from them, if you keep a strong enough army they'll keep paying it after the 5 years is up, as far as i know.
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« Reply #1431 on: February 09, 2012, 05:27:13 pm »

Or abuse them for +5 prestige every five years. Beat on them a bit, take one province, settle for concession of defeat. You'll get a bit of army tradition and prestige out of the fight, and five more prestige for the peace.

of course, that's been my strategy as a European power. Might be trickier as an Indian one.
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« Reply #1432 on: February 09, 2012, 06:26:31 pm »

If you can beat down a horde enough to get them for tribute, you can beat them down enough to take all their provinces.
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« Reply #1433 on: February 09, 2012, 06:36:39 pm »

If you can beat down a horde enough to get them for tribute, you can beat them down enough to take all their provinces.
Depends on release. Since Divine Wind you have to colonize horde territory to make it defect to you, instead of getting it in peace deals, and that means you have to forego tribute for a long time while you accumulate the colonists (on the other hand, getting one province is usually doable as you fight the hoard or a few months after).
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« Reply #1434 on: February 09, 2012, 07:15:04 pm »

You get a huuge boost to colonist rate by having a lot of horde territory on your border though. that being said i wouldn't exactly want most of that territory if i was india.
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« Reply #1435 on: February 09, 2012, 07:30:43 pm »

Could be useful for getting a strategic bonus on wool. Or boosting the CoT value of Bihar and Kutch (since those provinces would otherwise probably trade through Astrakhan). Or even releasing the border areas as vassals to form a buffer between you and Persia/Russia.

I think after my Scandinavia game is done, I might have to try a Hindustani unification game too.
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« Reply #1436 on: February 09, 2012, 08:09:33 pm »

wool is one of the lower priced goods, so odds are, you're going to want to avoid it. Tech speed is based on average province income.
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« Reply #1437 on: February 09, 2012, 09:10:58 pm »

35 -> 0 BB in 20 years! Also, I got rid of almost all my vassals. Only one left in Hindustan is Ceylon, who I might annex because I have cores on almost all their land. After that, I have all my cores. I'm having a feeling Wu will become an issue, though.

Also, my rank amongst nations is... 122. That's terrible, I've got a better rank with a vassal OPM! I was #1 for a short time. I guess my technological ineptness ruined it!

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« Reply #1438 on: February 09, 2012, 09:13:49 pm »

wool is one of the lower priced goods, so odds are, you're going to want to avoid it. Tech speed is based on average province income.

I'd rather have 100 junk provinces that ruin my tech speed than be a hyper teching minor. And I've played both ways too, but you simply gain more of an advantage by having more troops and income than by having slightly better tech.
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« Reply #1439 on: February 09, 2012, 09:43:52 pm »

Also, my rank amongst nations is... 122. That's terrible, I've got a better rank with a vassal OPM! I was #1 for a short time. I guess my technological ineptness ruined it!
I believe 'rank' is based on Prestige. I had someone a fifth my size and way behind technologically and economically one rank above me. All he had over me was 99 prestige, while I had less than that.
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