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Lightning4

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Re: Europa Universalis III
« Reply #2250 on: July 27, 2012, 06:43:11 am »

Sounds fun. Though you'll need to get cores fairly quickly in India and SEA to really be able to beat the other nations to North and South America, though I would imagine you could get pretty large chunks of them before any of the other nations are even close to reaching the west coasts.

Of course, that's provided the QFTNW nations don't fall victim to... "accidents".
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Re: Europa Universalis III
« Reply #2251 on: July 27, 2012, 06:53:01 am »

If a country is in a personal union with you, shouldn't it have the same monarch as me? As that is currently not the case with Cleves and me >.>
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« Reply #2252 on: July 27, 2012, 06:36:28 pm »

Grr, I was on roll. A couple more years and I'll have annexed England as Ireland. I wonder if I can turn Munster into France via Munster -> Ireland -> England -> France. We'll see. France itself is one again gone, and this is the first D&T game I have seen England ruined, albeit it was my doing. Its a little tough to get a a foothold on main Britain as the Irish, but once you do you can take stabs at the Brits every time they try to fight France. After a while, you just steamroll them without any help, and it's rare they ally with anybody tough. So far they've stuck with Portugal, once in a while they pull in Scotland, but Scotland has a pathetic army unless they are fighting the brits.
« Last Edit: July 27, 2012, 06:40:06 pm by Rex_Nex »
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Karlito

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« Reply #2253 on: July 27, 2012, 07:30:08 pm »

I was playing around with MEIOU as England and was fighting a war to get in a Personal Union with France. Two or three previous wars had left them pretty broken up, and they were also fighting off a territory grab by Aragon from the south. Their armies were destroyed and all of their provinces were under siege, but before I could bring the war to an end and complete the union, a weird event happened. France was destroyed and replaced with Dauphine who became my vassal. I guess I can't complain, since I've got their Military might to throw around at my European foes, but I'd rather have been able to get the French provinces under my direct control somewhere down the line.
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« Reply #2254 on: July 30, 2012, 12:21:10 am »

Can you inherit while at war? As Bavaria I got Hungary and Austria in a PU right away, but because they are both 2-3x larger they will insult me to death if we aren't at war with some random country.
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« Reply #2255 on: July 30, 2012, 03:06:33 am »

So I just had some of the strangest chain of events I've seen in EU3. 

Had one of my doom stacks sitting on Acre (next to Judea) and I got the mission to conquer Sidon (next to Acre) from Syria. Syria must of been awfully afraid of my doom stack and must of been in some serious debt because they offered to sell it to me for a modest fee of 50 gold.

The mission fired after I bought it and I gained a core. A new mission then pop up stating to conquer Beriut (next to Sidon) from Syria and again they sold it to me. Normally you have to wait 5 years for the truce to run out when it comes to conquer missions but since I never went to war that never happened.

This happened once again to take Latakia and once again they sold it to me. Finally I got a new mission to go and convert some province to the one true god but it will be interesting to see if the same oddity happens again if I get more of the same missions. I'm not sure if it's a bug or just a dumb AI flaw. Can't really complain about 3 cored provinces for 150 gold in less than a month though (which all had naval supplies which i was lacking).
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« Reply #2256 on: July 30, 2012, 02:26:06 pm »

Can you inherit while at war? As Bavaria I got Hungary and Austria in a PU right away, but because they are both 2-3x larger they will insult me to death if we aren't at war with some random country.
Nope, unfortunately. Not in 5.1 at least. Your best bet is probably to keep 1 in a war to ensure that it doesn't break away, and then you still have one to help you defeat the other when it breaks away.
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« Reply #2257 on: July 30, 2012, 04:51:21 pm »

Can someone explain how trying to inherit something is beneficial? I know you basically infamy-free annex them, but what gets me is that it seems so hard to do. Like chances are it will never happen.
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Karlito

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« Reply #2258 on: July 30, 2012, 04:53:28 pm »

You also get cores when you inherit them, though sometimes it does take quite a while.
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Re: Europa Universalis III
« Reply #2259 on: July 30, 2012, 06:00:28 pm »

Inheriting only gets you cores if both nations are in the HRE.
So it's kind of a big deal when trying to expand there.
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Re: Europa Universalis III
« Reply #2260 on: July 30, 2012, 06:09:22 pm »

Really? I thought you got cores on all the territory they had cores on outside of the HRE.
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« Reply #2261 on: July 30, 2012, 07:03:59 pm »

Maybe I should of rephrased that. How hard/easy is it to inherit something? Is it worth your time to try to get them? Usually I just hope that I get them when having a royal marriage. What are the best and safest ways to get them?
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« Reply #2262 on: July 30, 2012, 07:18:30 pm »

Easy to get in a PU if you're capable of beating them in a war. Afterwords, chances are you will inherit within the next few kings. To get a PU, you can either just claim the throne of the resident baddie when you see them on the list, or if you have decent spies, just forge documents on them. Going to war and beating them is usually easy; ally some people around them and beat their face in.

As for why it's beneficial over conquering; no infamy, free cores on EVERYTHING, and you can inherit countries much larger then you if you're capable of keeping them in the PU (I think this means having more troops then them, but I'm really confused about this. Hungary is 3x my size and with more troops, but they don't try to break my PU) and in the meantime you get a giant near-vassal.

It's well worth it. The best way is to forge claims on their throne, but you need spies and you need them to be decent. Then comes claiming their throne and warring for a PU, then comes claiming a throne and hoping the king dies, and finally the worst way is via royal marriage.

Cores are given if they are in the HRE along with you OR if they are in your culture group.
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« Reply #2263 on: July 30, 2012, 07:20:41 pm »

But isn't there a chance you get some bad luck, and suddenly they are the ones inheriting your stuff?
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Karlito

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« Reply #2264 on: July 30, 2012, 07:22:11 pm »

The player can't ever be inherited by the AI in any situation, so no.
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