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[franti]

Here's a somewhat ambitious plan for a fortress I'm going to make.
First, I'm going to make humans playable.
I plan on building a giant above-ground city from carved stone. I'd like to use Sandstone, because I'm going for an ancient, Ur-like feel, where Bronze is the metal of choice and the city is guarded over by a giant ziggurat.

Every human will be organized into castes, and will recieve holdings in an approriate manner:
From top to bottom, Mayor, Administrators, Soldiers, Craftsmen, Farmers.
The Mayor and Admins will not fight, and will live in the ziggurat, along with the soldiers. The craftsmen will live inside the walls, and the farmers outside. Only farmers will havest, and admins/mayor will not haul. There will be no communal efforts: Greed and sloth are innate human traits, but common sense isn't.

The Stonemasons (considered craftsmen) will make the stone blocks, and the farmers will haul them into place. The farmers will not have stone blocks for their huts, only rough stone.

Durring a siege, all humans will be called inside. The farmers will be in the "Wall Guard", armed in Leather, Wood, and Bow/Arrows. The craftsmen will be "Gate Guards", armed in Leather and some Bronze with a Pike. The Professional Soldiers will be armed in full Bronze, with Bronze Spears and a Black Bronze shield (for epic-ness).
Each squad, militia or professional, will be of 5 men. The men will spend 2 months training, 1 month patroling/guarding, and the rest working. Professionals will spend 10 months training and 2 resting.

The wall surrounding the city will be 3 z-levels high and 3 tiles wide with 1 tile of fortifications in certain areas and walls in others. Ramps will connect the multiple levels. Stockpiles of extra arrows/quivers will be in small underground rooms beneath the walls.
The gate will not be protected by a giant drawbridge or a lava-moat, but giant, epic Black Bronze gates (floodgates) so that sieges may get in if they have building destroyers.

I plan on giving every human family their own hut/house, and when their children get married, they get their own hut as well.

[UltraValican]

Bonus points if you start in a desert/arid area near a brook and or river.

[Imminent]

How do you make humans a playable civilization in fortress mode?

[acetech09]

[CIV_CONTROLLABLE], to answer your question.

How are you gonna get all dat stone/metal? +1 if you make another caste 'conjurers' which use a custom workshop (magic shop) which magically creates stone/metal, perhaps in exchange for plants or something - sacrifice some food to create the stone to build your megafort.

[UltraValican]

How do you make humans a playable civilization in fortress mode?

Add the [CIV_CONTROLLABLE] in the human/plains entity section. Take away the tag for dwarves( or check the civ screen) the first race is what you spawn as.

Dangit- Nija'ed

[CIV_CONTROLLABLE], to answer your question.

How are you gonna get all dat stone/metal? +1 if you make another caste 'conjurers' which use a custom workshop (magic shop) which magically creates stone/metal, perhaps in exchange for plants or something - sacrifice some food to create the stone to build your megafort.

Mining?

[acetech09]

Mining?

I guess - but would probably take a large amount of time to try a whole bunch of embarks for crapton amounts of sandstone, cassiterite+<copper_ore_here>, desert biome (preferably) + flat (preferably) + other things along those lines.

[UristMcHuman]

Take a 5x5 tile embark onto an area with scarce trees and vegitation with a stream of river, take along some bronze bars to start off with, a few seeds, a couple of picks, an axe, food, and whatever you deem needed for something like this. To get a really good start-off, use advanced world gen to have 10,000 embark points, bring lots of bronze and stone, take lots of seeds, and bring lots of food and take some experienced workers. Dig 5x5 pit houses (channels with a 5x5 chamber on one side of it) and place hatches over them. Put your housing in them until you can get proper house materials.

Or, just remove the tags in the dwarf entity for underground stuff and replace them with overground items.

[Excedion]

Sounds like a cool idea. I can see the farmers and stoneworkers acting as guards being a problem though. On your first siege with goblin bowmen or goblin master crossbowmen they're going to get destroyed depending on how you set up the battlefield. Which could be pretty detrimental to the whole megaproject thing if your workers are dead. Love the idea the ziggurat though. Maybe build a giant bronze monolith or something similar on top

[krenshala]

How are you gonna get all dat stone/metal? +1 if you make another caste 'conjurers' which use a custom workshop (magic shop) which magically creates stone/metal, perhaps in exchange for plants or something - sacrifice some food to create the stone to build your megafort.

Actually, Ur and its contemporary cities were normally made of mud brick.  This means all you need is a source of clay and you can construct as much of a city as you wish.

[UristMcHuman]

How are you gonna get all dat stone/metal? +1 if you make another caste 'conjurers' which use a custom workshop (magic shop) which magically creates stone/metal, perhaps in exchange for plants or something - sacrifice some food to create the stone to build your megafort.

Actually, Ur and its contemporary cities were normally made of mud brick.  This means all you need is a source of clay and you can construct as much of a city as you wish.

Extremely true!!! I myself am a major fan of making my houses and other structures of clay, but it's annoying that you need fuel to make a clay brick. It also takes somewhere's around 4-5 minutes just to gather a lump of clay, but the stuff offers infinite building materials. I ought to embark on a badland biome with (shallow) clay, take a rock with, and once I hit my site, channel to the clay and build a kiln. Then gather lots of clay and make homes and walls from it.

[KtosoX]

...
The Professional Soldiers will be armed in full Bronze, with Bronze Spears and a Black Bronze shield (for epic-ness).
...

Since when can we make weapons or armor out of Black Bronze ?
http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/DF2010:Black_bronze

[Subdane]

You can play with humans?!!!

I didnt realise you could edit the raw files to such an extent......Hmmmm
The idea with building the above ground fort/castle sounds REALLY cool/funny, but but but... What... ehmmm So basically you are playing with "dwarfs" that looks like humans, I mean they only look like humans but behave like dwarves as we know it? Right?

[acetech09]

You can play with humans?!!!

I didnt realise you could edit the raw files to such an extent......Hmmmm
The idea with building the above ground fort/castle sounds REALLY cool/funny, but but but... What... ehmmm So basically you are playing with "dwarfs" that looks like humans, I mean they only look like humans but behave like dwarves as we know it? Right?

afaik yes - and you can make ANY creature playable.. granted playing as a race of giant earthworms would be sorta disappointing

[Mephansteras]

You can play with humans?!!!

I didnt realise you could edit the raw files to such an extent......Hmmmm
The idea with building the above ground fort/castle sounds REALLY cool/funny, but but but... What... ehmmm So basically you are playing with "dwarfs" that looks like humans, I mean they only look like humans but behave like dwarves as we know it? Right?

They're like dwarves, but only to a certain extent. Humans won't trance, don't require alcohol to get through the day, and don't get cave adaptation. I don't remember if not trancing means they don't make artifacts, but I think that's the case. They still have the dwarven crafting abilities, though, as well as mining speed.

So it takes a bit of self control and limitations to really play them as humans. Still fun, though.

 

[Subdane]

I gotta try this