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[RAM]

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1) Imperial police would like to sign a 6 month contract for 3  Llamas monthly, to be used as a training vessel for cadets. Unfortunately they offer just enough to barely cover your expenses.  You'll get 100 credits per shipyes

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2) "Blueair Spaceyard"* offer 450 per ship as long as they'll have a right to refit Llamas and resell under their brand. They are ready to buy as much as you can produce, but no less then 5 per month for the next year. no


2)
10 size 1 spacedocks

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3 assembly lines (Hull A18) - production effectiveness 3.3
3 assembly lines (Engine RE4)  - production effectiveness 3.3Build llama haulers

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1 Assemly line (Machine gun MGI7) - production effectiveness 4 (idle)Build MGI7

3)

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-Laisa NigelDesign new engine with following specifications: Hull = .5H, weight = Less than 400Kg full, fuel = approximately 400s, Thrust = at least 6G(preferably higher), other = functions at 25G and does not explode due to normal use and can be used in conjunction with other engines.

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-Tavian LexomDesign sports variant of A19 hull, make it fun to pilot.

4)
Acquire rights to sell arms and develop presence in arms market.

[stabbymcstabstab]

start producing lamas for the police contract

[PyroDesu]

Yes, police contract is important. Also, begin development of turret mount.

[RAM]

I wouldn't bother with a turret until we are working on something that would benefit from one.  The Llamas are not really combat craft and I see the guns creating more dangerous space junk than they stop... Which gives me an idea! We could make a modified llama with heavy armour and various attraction and deceleration elements to act as an orbital rubbish collector. We could run them ourselves to generate product awareness and collect raw materials...

[PyroDesu]

I wouldn't bother with a turret until we are working on something that would benefit from one.  The Llamas are not really combat craft and I see the guns creating more dangerous space junk than they stop... Which gives me an idea! We could make a modified llama with heavy armour and various attraction and deceleration elements to act as an orbital rubbish collector. We could run them ourselves to generate product awareness and collect raw materials...

A flying magnet?

I think our Llamas would tow them. More flexible.

[RAM]

That makes sense. What would be the operating costs on a couple of Llamas towing very powerful magnets encased in some sort of shock-absorbing layer, probably some sort of reinforced putty, through cluttered space? And how much material are they likely to retrieve? And which entities, if any, are currently performing this duty?

[PyroDesu]

"Don't want to live in a world that's dying, Don't want to live in a world that's dead!"

[PyroDesu]

That was a subtle hint that I think this may be dead...

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Spoiler: Balance (click to show/hide)

4480 credits

no outstanding loans

Spoiler: Staff (click to show/hide)

Manager - Bronto "Not voting" Nigel (Management 1, Negotiating 0.25)
Engineer - Laisa Nigel (generic engineering 1, rocket engineering 1.4 )
Engineer - Tavian Lexom (ergonomics 2,05, targeting 1, maneuverability 1, stealth 1. Rocket engineering 0.1, aerodynamics, 0,05, generic engineering 0,05, Design 0,05 ), salary: 1200

Spoiler: Manufacturing facilities (click to show/hide)

10 size 1 spacedocks
3 assembly lines (Hull A18) - production effectiveness 3.4
3 assembly lines (Engine RE4)  - production effectiveness 3.4
1 Assembly line (Machine gun MGI7) - production effectiveness 4.05

Spoiler: Known modules (click to show/hide)

Hulls
A18 (Basic steel hull, your company produced those as long as you remember yourself. Cheap, heavy, durable)
- Production cost: 1 assembly line.
- weight 1300 kg

A19
It's thin, it's fragile it's really not for combat or micrometeorite heavy space. Furthermore it's not the most comfortable vessel, but you can put a lot of stuff in it
Production cost: 1 assembly line
weight: 850 kg
provides 1.5 hull points

Engines
RE4 (pretty powerful liquid fuel rocket engine. It's an ancient and explosive technology, but it's cheap and durable):
- Production cost: 1 assembly line.
- Hulls required: 1
- Max acceleration: 10G per tonne
- fuel: 1200 seconds at full power
- weight: 800 kg (full), 100 kg (empty)

RE4(b)
This engine is basically an enlarged RE4 engine, but after some fighting between engineers it has much, much less fuel on board and heavier construction

- Production cost: 1 assembly line.
- Hulls required: 1
- Max acceleration: 18G per tonne
- fuel: 300 seconds at full power
- weight: 550 kg (full), 350 kg (empty)

Light weapons
Machine gun MGI7 Legendary MGI7 is well known in the sector, this 12 mm machine gun served in many wars as a reliable infantry weapon. But it wasn't designed for use in vacuum, so users may expect problems with jamming and overcooling\overheating
- production cost: 0,1 assembly line
- Hulls required: 0,05
- ammo: 300 rounds
- weight: 40 kg

Spoiler: Models (click to show/hide)

 
Llama hauler (It's ugly, it doesn't have cargo space, it's not comfortable and it's blowing up easily. But it works fine for hauling
- Hull A18
- Engine RE4

Spoiler: R&D (click to show/hide)

Company experience:
Liquid fuel rocket engines 3.2
Firearms 0.5

Current projects
Modernize hull A18 with minimal retooling requirements (10% progress)
No one

New RE5 Engine (target characteristics :Hull = .5H, weight =<400Kg full, fuel = 400s, Thrust => 6G) (5% progress)
-Laisa Nigel

A19(s) Hull  (35% progress)
-Tavian Lexom

Spoiler: Contracts (click to show/hide)

With police, 3 Llamas per month for 300 credits, 5 months left

I'll never say "soon" again.....
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You signed the contract with  police, and got first 300 credits for 3 Llamas

Another 7 produced Llamas was sold for 2000 credits, so, maybe, that contract wasn't a good idea....

You entered the arms market and sold 40 MG-17 to police for 180 credits

Paid 1200 to Tavian Lexom
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Your Sister said that target characteristics for RE5 are way too high and asks too lower it somewhere

[RAM]

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Lower the characteristics of the RE5 to 450 kg full and 360s of fuel.


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10 size 1 spacedocks

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3 assembly lines (Hull A18) - production effectiveness 3.4
3 assembly lines (Engine RE4)  - production effectiveness 3.4Build llama haulers

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1 Assemly line (Machine gun MGI7) - production effectiveness 4.05 (idle)Build MGI7

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-Laisa NigelNew RE5 Engine (target characteristics :Hull = .5H, weight =<450Kg full, fuel = 360s, Thrust => 6G)

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-Tavian LexomA19(s) Hull

4)
Find out what sort of specifications the police would want in a space vehicle.

[stabbymcstabstab]

We should figure out what the police would want in a ship and do what RAM suggested

[RAM]

Maybe it would be better to narrow the field, we would probably need scientists or to buy some stealth technology to build a surveillance craft. Or we could just load it into an asteroid, but stray asteroids probably get blown up. You could just rig an existing asteroid for detection, but everyone else has probably already done that.
 Meh, the police know what they would like to replace better than we do, maybe, though perhaps we could get a list of what they already use...
Lets load some spy satellites into some asteroids to spy on everyone!

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Spoiler: Balance (click to show/hide)

5130 credits

no outstanding loans

Spoiler: Staff (click to show/hide)

Manager - Bronto "Not voting" Nigel (Management 1, Negotiating 0.25)
Engineer - Laisa Nigel (generic engineering 1, rocket engineering 1.4 )
Engineer - Tavian Lexom (ergonomics 2,05, targeting 1, maneuverability 1, stealth 1. Rocket engineering 0.1, aerodynamics, 0,05, generic engineering 0,05, Design 0,05 ), salary: 1200

Spoiler: Manufacturing facilities (click to show/hide)

10 size 1 spacedocks
3 assembly lines (Hull A18) - production effectiveness 3.5
3 assembly lines (Engine RE4)  - production effectiveness 3.5
1 Assembly line (Machine gun MGI7) - production effectiveness 4.1

Spoiler: Known modules (click to show/hide)

Hulls
A18 (Basic steel hull, your company produced those as long as you remember yourself. Cheap, heavy, durable)
- Production cost: 1 assembly line.
- weight 1300 kg

A19
It's thin, it's fragile it's really not for combat or micrometeorite heavy space. Furthermore it's not the most comfortable vessel, but you can put a lot of stuff in it
Production cost: 1 assembly line
weight: 850 kg
provides 1.5 hull points

Engines
RE4 (pretty powerful liquid fuel rocket engine. It's an ancient and explosive technology, but it's cheap and durable):
- Production cost: 1 assembly line.
- Hulls required: 1
- Max acceleration: 10G per tonne
- fuel: 1200 seconds at full power
- weight: 800 kg (full), 100 kg (empty)

RE4(b)
This engine is basically an enlarged RE4 engine, but after some fighting between engineers it has much, much less fuel on board and heavier construction

- Production cost: 1 assembly line.
- Hulls required: 1
- Max acceleration: 18G per tonne
- fuel: 300 seconds at full power
- weight: 550 kg (full), 350 kg (empty)

Light weapons
Machine gun MGI7 Legendary MGI7 is well known in the sector, this 12 mm machine gun served in many wars as a reliable infantry weapon. But it wasn't designed for use in vacuum, so users may expect problems with jamming and overcooling\overheating
- production cost: 0,1 assembly line
- Hulls required: 0,05
- ammo: 300 rounds
- weight: 40 kg

Spoiler: Models (click to show/hide)

 
Llama hauler (It's ugly, it doesn't have cargo space, it's not comfortable and it's blowing up easily. But it works fine for hauling
- Hull A18
- Engine RE4

Spoiler: R&D (click to show/hide)

Company experience:
Liquid fuel rocket engines 3.2
Firearms 0.5

Current projects
Modernize hull A18 with minimal retooling requirements (10% progress)
No one

New RE5 Engine (target characteristics :Hull = .5H, weight =<450Kg full, fuel = 360s, Thrust => 6G) (15% progress)
-Laisa Nigel

A19(s) Hull  (80% progress)
-Tavian Lexom

Spoiler: Contracts (click to show/hide)

With police, 3 Llamas per month for 300 credits, 4 months left

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300 credits from the police contract

7 Llamas > 1500 credits

40 MG-17  > 50 credits. There are no real demand for old machineguns

-1200 > Tavian Lexom
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Police informed you that they need:

1) Armored personnel carriers
2) Universal, easy to control, cheap, light fighter with good armor piercing weapon (universal = can operate in space and in atmosphere)
3) Agile, fast and stealthy reconnaissance craft

[Sheb]

We should produce more Llamas and design some better machinegun.

[RAM]

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Thank the police and state that you hope to present them with a competitive design at a future date.

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10 size 1 spacedocks

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3 assembly lines (Hull A18) - production effectiveness 3.5
3 assembly lines (Engine RE4)  - production effectiveness 3.5Build llama haulers

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1 Assemly line (Machine gun MGI7) - production effectiveness 4.1 (idle)Build MGI7

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-Laisa NigelNew RE5 Engine (target characteristics :Hull = .5H, weight =<450Kg full, fuel = 360s, Thrust => 6G)

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-Tavian LexomA19(s) Hull

4)
Look for weapons capable of piercing armour.





Selling guns doesn't seem to be helping much, but until we have something new to build I don't see a need to change...

Having a chassis designed for both atmospheric and vacuum travel would seem like a decent investment. Having such a thing that conforms to police specifications would seem practical, even if they don't pay well...
 Easy to control sounds like simple and stable, so avoid too much manoeuvring. As a fighter it would, however, need something in terms of performance, so probably a high maximum speed. Alternatively it could have a twin-pilot arrangement so that one pilot is dedicated to directing acceleration while the other handles all other controls. A turret would take pressure off of the pilot and allow them to engage without taking a collision course. Armour-piercing would imply a single large weapon. It is probably cheaper to avoid getting hit than to put armour on it. Atmospheric flight would require a lot of fuel. Maybe some sort of low-power engine with a small supply of some sort of boost. Ideally the main weapon would extend through a significant portion of the vessels length, which would be difficult if it was centrally-mounted. If the pilots were mounted in the rear there would probably be noise issues with the propulsion, especially in atmosphere, and the weapon would need to be forward-mounted to remain credible in pursuit. I suggest either mounting the pilots either side of the weapon or mounting the weapon off-centre and attempt some sort of counter-balance, perhaps with the wings or a counter-measure pod.
 So... aerodynamic shape with high-mounted wings a small-device attachment on the top and a large turret on the base and space for the turret to retract into the chassis and the weapon to be realigned to face backwards then slide into the hull, for landing purposes...


P.S.
 ooooh, good idea, lets look for a weapons engineer instead!