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Eddren

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Re: Dwarf warrior pods.
« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2011, 08:19:05 pm »

New danger room:
Room looming over the sea..
..With kobolds inside the Danger Room.
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« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2011, 08:22:51 pm »

Do dwarves take falling damage when landing on water?

I think the z-level of the water has to be atleast 2 z-levels high to reduce the damage to a zero.

Water does absolutely nothing to reduce falling damage, you might as well be falling through air. Evident in idiot dwarves falling through wells, splattering into pieces and screwing up your cistern with dwarf blood. :P
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« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2011, 09:25:21 pm »

Do dwarves take falling damage when landing on water?

I think the z-level of the water has to be atleast 2 z-levels high to reduce the damage to a zero.

Water does absolutely nothing to reduce falling damage, you might as well be falling through air. Evident in idiot dwarves falling through wells, splattering into pieces and screwing up your cistern with dwarf blood. :P

I don't know about that, i've done lots of arena mode tests dropping dwarves from varying heights into varying depths of water and they do survive without damage. Untill they drown.

Funny you guys should be talking about this because i'm in the process of building a drop pod 'shock troop' type thing like was mentioned earlier where dwarves drop freefall into a cylinder of water, sinking to the bottom and triggering a pressure plate that drains the water. Useful for fortress setups where your dwarves are in an air ship or something and need to get to ground level really fast.

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Re: Dwarf warrior pods.
« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2011, 10:24:44 pm »

Water does reduce injury, but you need a lot of it. It's not like minecraft where a puddle can stop a fall from space. There was some dwarfscience done in the past.
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« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2011, 11:55:21 am »

They could deploy into a drop pod that is hanging from a support. The cave in hurts/stuns foes
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« Reply #20 on: August 21, 2011, 01:45:38 pm »

The best way to deploy them is by making them fall onto the ground from above in 'pods' WH40K style ofcourse, using controlled cave-ins it would be a viable option.

Do it using hatches, and have a 1x1 room full of kittens at the bottom to give them a nice soft landing.
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Re: Dwarf warrior pods.
« Reply #21 on: August 21, 2011, 03:26:10 pm »

The science around drop pods is very similar to the dwarven submerisible idea found here.
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Re: Dwarf warrior pods.
« Reply #22 on: August 21, 2011, 04:09:39 pm »

Do dwarves take falling damage when landing on water?

I think the z-level of the water has to be atleast 2 z-levels high to reduce the damage to a zero.

Can a danger room be filled with water 4/7ths deep? Or does the dodging and whatnot make drowning a conern?
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Re: Dwarf warrior pods.
« Reply #23 on: August 21, 2011, 04:14:14 pm »

If the whole "Volcanic Dorf Shock Pod" thing works, I'm going to have some serious fun in update .26.

Flood the area with magma, then drop some uberdorfs ontop of the zombie hordes. Let the games begin.

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Re: Dwarf warrior pods.
« Reply #24 on: August 21, 2011, 04:48:42 pm »

On my lake side fortress there is a 15z levels cliff ,3Zs are underwater,when I throw gobbos on the lake they always break their legs.
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« Reply #25 on: August 21, 2011, 09:57:07 pm »

Update on my basejumping into water project, I have a 27 z-level high diving board (highest I can get without digging down) where dwarves stand on a lever linked hatch. I'm slowly filling up the cylinder of water to see the minimum needed for my toughest dwarf to survive. The water is at 7 levels deep and it's still exploding-body fatal. I was starting to wonder if it would even work so I build a platform only 9 levels above ground and it was working perfectly without injury, so I just need more water.

I also discovered that a dwarf will fall 1 level every 6 turns and on average my fastest dwarf can go down a flight of stairs every 5 turns. This dwarfs' agility is freakishly high so the falling method is still faster for the average trained soldier but that is just awesome that a dwarf can beat dwarf in free fall to the ground on foot.

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« Reply #26 on: August 21, 2011, 10:28:39 pm »

I also discovered that a dwarf will fall 1 level every 6 turns and on average my fastest dwarf can go down a  of stairs every 5 turns. This dwarfs' agility is freakishly high so the falling method is still faster for the average trained soldier but that is just awesome that a dwarf can beat dwarf in free fall to the ground on foot.
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THEY CAN BEAT YOU AT FALLING AS WELL!

Eddren

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« Reply #27 on: August 22, 2011, 08:38:53 am »

I plan on doing a Dwarf Squad-drop:
First part: Raise the Magma Sea up to flow around the second underground Cavern.
Second part: In the now-safe zone located underneath the Magma-Sea, make three channels above the ceiling of Hell.
Third part: Repeat this nine times.
Fourth part: Using speed 0 dwarves, quickly mine out a section of the ceiling, replace with bridge.
Fifth part: Hook up all the bridges to a lever.
Sixth part: Repeat this nine times.
Seventh part: Put chickens on all of the 27 bottom-most tiles.
Eighth part: Put all ten squad-members in their respective spots.
Ninth part: Make sure they're the Combat-Miners.
Tenth part: DOUBLE CHECK.
Eleventh part: PULL THE LEVER!
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« Reply #28 on: August 22, 2011, 11:45:18 am »

I plan on doing a Dwarf Squad-drop:
First part: Raise the Magma Sea up to flow around the second underground Cavern.
Second part: In the now-safe zone located underneath the Magma-Sea, make three channels above the ceiling of Hell.
Third part: Repeat this nine times.
Fourth part: Using speed 0 dwarves, quickly mine out a section of the ceiling, replace with bridge.
Fifth part: Hook up all the bridges to a lever.
Sixth part: Repeat this nine times.
Seventh part: Put chickens on all of the 27 bottom-most tiles.
Eighth part: Put all ten squad-members in their respective spots.
Ninth part: Make sure they're the Combat-Miners.
Tenth part: DOUBLE CHECK.
Eleventh part: PULL THE LEVER!
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BloodBeard

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« Reply #29 on: August 22, 2011, 12:36:17 pm »

SUCCESS!

(sort of...)

I had a dwarf with scary scary toughness fall 27 z-levels into a 1x1 area of water 9 z-levels deep wearing masterful steel armour and live. Her whole right side took the full force of the impact, breaking her right lower arm and upper spine with bruising on a few other body parts. My pressure plate system worked and the water was released allowing her to crawl out.

Now I just need to find a depth where she can emerge uninjured.
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