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Author Topic: Roguelike Mafia 3 - Rise of the Jewel [Game Over]  (Read 113722 times)

Max White

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Re: Roguelike Mafia 3 - All Present and Accounted For [Day 2] [Need Replacement]
« Reply #390 on: September 13, 2011, 03:54:17 pm »

I used Detect Monster on Wuba, assuming he'd be the first NK, and found out that other than me, Think and TolyK targeted him.
Crap, your right. Somehow I got Simple and Think confused.

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Re: Roguelike Mafia 3 - Same Story, Different Day [Day 3] [Need Replacement]
« Reply #391 on: September 13, 2011, 05:53:01 pm »

Damn, this is gettin confusing.

First off, I am in no way confirmed by any stretch of the imagination. I could be the cult leader, and I very well could of been converted in the night. Are either of these true? No, but I'll not let you shitheads claim things that aren't true.

Second, Webadict, I'm more than a bit interested in your response.

Third, I'm just going to flatly come out with this so we can plan our next night as carefully as possible: I still have another wand of probing charge, but I also have a scroll of confusion. My class is transmuter. I'm trying to figure out if transmuting the probe and confusion would be a good idea, but I actually consider confusion to be quite good here. It's a great thing to shoot at anybody since it hurts scum a LOT more than it hurts townies. Of course, a juicy uncommon is also nice as well.

Forth, why didn't you kill anyone, Simple? And why do you care so much that I'm mixing up charging with recharging, I clearly know what items you have. Hell, your ring of warning... warned... you as such.

Fifth, Toaster, in what order would a cult conversion fall on the order of operations chart?

Sixth, here's our D2 claims:
Actions:
Webadict:  Protect on Simple
Mr.Person:  Cursed Weapon Dariush
Think0028:  Protect on Webadict
Simple:  Noned
Max White:  Tracked Darvi to Webadict
Darvi:  Detect Monster on Webadict, came up Darvi, Think0028, and TolyK
TolyK:  Tracked Webadict to Simple
Dariush:  Noned
Orangebottle:  Noned, No one targeted

Here's the D3 claims:
Darvi: Bussed Person and Webadict
Max: Inspect Person, got redirected towards webadict, result Third party. Confirmed by webadict. At least the result.
Webadict: Door creation on TolyK
Tolyk: commanded OB, got door'd
Person: Probed Simple
OB: Scroll of teleport.
Simple: None'd
Think: Presumably none'd

Here's what we can gleam:
If Webadict is town, Max is obviously scum. Darvi, Think, and TolyK are all confirmed not cult leader, leaving the cult leader as one of me, OB, and Simple. Of course this is impossible, if Webadict was a Martyr he would have claimed as such D1. Also, a Martyr in a cult game? Really? Toaster isn't that shitty. But I digress.

If Webadict is a converted cult member, one of Think or TolyK is likely, but not definitively, the cult leader. If converts happen after inspections, then one of those two is definitely cult leader. Darvi is cleared from being cult leader here since there's no possible way to learn the claimed information and faking it is just plain impossible. Presumably we win via using roleblocks or something to murderate TolyK.

If me or Web get converted night 1, Darvi is confirmed not cult leader.

If I'm town right now, Simple is confirmed not converted during N1 or N2. Or, you know, somebody would of died last night. It's not a bad gambit, honestly, to assume that Think won't get a replacement. Even if Think does, the worst that happens is Simple gets caught killing, gets lynched, cult wins.

Think is confirmed not cult leader or by God I will rip Toaster's fucking lungs out for being the shittiest mod ever. If you want to dispute this, go ahead, but seriously think about it. Who drops from a game where they're a cult leader? Whatever, agree to disagree, but don't talk to me about this, my mind is made up.
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Re: Roguelike Mafia 3 - Same Story, Different Day [Day 3] [Need Replacement]
« Reply #392 on: September 13, 2011, 06:25:36 pm »

If Wuba's a convert, then Tolyk is definitely scum of some flavor, considering that he backed off TolyK so quickly.
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Re: Roguelike Mafia 3 - Same Story, Different Day [Day 3] [Need Replacement]
« Reply #393 on: September 13, 2011, 06:33:55 pm »

Okay, then let me rephrase that: If webadict got converted N1, Person is confirmed Town.

OB, did anybody target you?
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Re: Roguelike Mafia 3 - Same Story, Different Day [Day 3] [Need Replacement]
« Reply #394 on: September 13, 2011, 06:43:56 pm »

I no longer have my ring, so I have no idea.
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Re: Roguelike Mafia 3 - Same Story, Different Day [Day 3] [Need Replacement]
« Reply #395 on: September 13, 2011, 06:48:08 pm »

Did you lose it or is it a oneshot? The item list doesn't tell.
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Re: Roguelike Mafia 3 - Same Story, Different Day [Day 3] [Need Replacement]
« Reply #396 on: September 13, 2011, 06:51:00 pm »

Third, I'm just going to flatly come out with this so we can plan our next night as carefully as possible: I still have another wand of probing charge, but I also have a scroll of confusion. My class is transmuter. I'm trying to figure out if transmuting the probe and confusion would be a good idea, but I actually consider confusion to be quite good here. It's a great thing to shoot at anybody since it hurts scum a LOT more than it hurts townies. Of course, a juicy uncommon is also nice as well.
Personally, I would be going for the uncommon. The problem, however, is that then you won't know what you get until the night starts, right? So your not very useful to planning our night actions.
Also, confusing a cult leader means we have nothing to go off for figuring out who he would have converted. It is random.

I no longer have my ring, so I have no idea.
I clearly know what items you have. Hell, your ring of warning... warned... you as such.

I find this to be rather amusing.

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Re: Roguelike Mafia 3 - Same Story, Different Day [Day 3] [Need Replacement]
« Reply #397 on: September 13, 2011, 07:00:50 pm »

Did you lose it or is it a oneshot? The item list doesn't tell.

Transmuted.
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Re: Roguelike Mafia 3 - Same Story, Different Day [Day 3] [Need Replacement]
« Reply #399 on: September 13, 2011, 07:57:16 pm »

Third, I'm just going to flatly come out with this so we can plan our next night as carefully as possible: I still have another wand of probing charge, but I also have a scroll of confusion. My class is transmuter. I'm trying to figure out if transmuting the probe and confusion would be a good idea, but I actually consider confusion to be quite good here. It's a great thing to shoot at anybody since it hurts scum a LOT more than it hurts townies. Of course, a juicy uncommon is also nice as well.
Personally, I would be going for the uncommon. The problem, however, is that then you won't know what you get until the night starts, right? So your not very useful to planning our night actions.
Also, confusing a cult leader means we have nothing to go off for figuring out who he would have converted. It is random.
There's a very real chance of the cult leader hitting him/herself or a convert. Also, hitting a convert is great as well since a positive action will probably hit a townie and a negative action has a chance of hitting the leader or convert. Hitting a townie means that the player doesn't hit who he/she wanted, but that's ok since the action still hits somebody.

I no longer have my ring, so I have no idea.
I clearly know what items you have. Hell, your ring of warning... warned... you as such.

I find this to be rather amusing.
I hit Simple with the probing, not Orangebottle.
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Re: Roguelike Mafia 3 - Same Story, Different Day [Day 3] [Need Replacement]
« Reply #400 on: September 13, 2011, 09:06:55 pm »

Ok, well that works.
Point is that if converts some after inspects, then Tolyk and Think are our two suspects.
I can lock down Think with a petrify, so if he happens to be the leader there is no convert tonight, but that will also protect him from being vigg'd. So Simple can fire he's scroll of death at Tolyk, the more scummy one, and see what he flips. And if kills come before converts, he dosn't get a convert either.

The problem here is that what do we do about last nights convert? They are free to do as they like. If Darvi got converted, and has another switch, somebody is going most likely to die.

So I don't know, block Tolyk and do things the old fashion way?

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Re: Roguelike Mafia 3 - Same Story, Different Day [Day 3] [Need Replacement]
« Reply #401 on: September 13, 2011, 11:08:59 pm »

I saw a couple questions on order of operations (Person and Max I believe). In general:

Redirection
Blocks
Blessings / Curses
Item Manipulation
Protection
Inspection
Kills (then Conversions)
Misc / Item Counts

There are some edge cases (mostly involving redirects and blocks) that are detailed in the info page in the first post, but I'll answer any questions you have about it.  An item's OoO class is listed on the item table as well.
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Re: Roguelike Mafia 3 - Same Story, Different Day [Day 3] [Need Replacement]
« Reply #402 on: September 13, 2011, 11:19:21 pm »

So inspects come before converts, thus if Wubba is a cultist he would have had to been converted n1, and unless Darvi made a freakishly lucky guess, he is confirmed to have tracked who ever visited Wubba. That only leaves Tolyk and Think.

Or, if Wubba flips cult leader, things look bad for Simple.

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Re: Roguelike Mafia 3 - Same Story, Different Day [Day 3] [Need Replacement]
« Reply #403 on: September 14, 2011, 02:21:51 am »

Most cult leaders result in death for the whole cult if they die.

I wish we had another roleblock to put on Simple, just in case. One on Think would be acceptable.
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Re: Roguelike Mafia 3 - Same Story, Different Day [Day 3] [Need Replacement]
« Reply #404 on: September 14, 2011, 03:57:56 am »

If Wubba flips leader and it doesn't cause the death of the rest of the scum, I'll petrify Simple, otherwise he isn't more confirmed scum, or close to.
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