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Author Topic: Roguelike Mafia 3 - Rise of the Jewel [Game Over]  (Read 113703 times)

Orangebottle

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Re: Roguelike Mafia 3 - Same Story, Different Day [Day 3] [Need Replacement]
« Reply #375 on: September 13, 2011, 08:11:28 am »

Orangebottle: You suspect that webadict is the leader ? Why you think that assuming someone tells the truth is wrong ?
Oh, what, someone actually read my post instead of completely ignoring it?

Yeah, it was a somewhat complex claim he just tried. I don't think anybody else could have come up with that much information, though the bit about the gem sort of sealed it for me. Who better to have the Emperor's Jewel than the cult leader?

If you don't know anything about a person, would you trust them with your money? Your car? Your house?

I sure as hell wouldn't.
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Re: Roguelike Mafia 3 - Same Story, Different Day [Day 3] [Need Replacement]
« Reply #376 on: September 13, 2011, 08:13:41 am »

I don't think he is the leader. His sudden vote-swing from TolyK to Dariush looks more like a literal change of heart than anything.
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Re: Roguelike Mafia 3 - Same Story, Different Day [Day 3] [Need Replacement]
« Reply #377 on: September 13, 2011, 08:31:32 am »

here's that thing i promised:
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Now, i have something to add here, back to my own comp :D
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Shakerag: Who are you personally suspicious of?
At this point?  TolyK.

TolyK

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Re: Roguelike Mafia 3 - Same Story, Different Day [Day 3] [Need Replacement]
« Reply #378 on: September 13, 2011, 10:29:26 am »

Tolyk: I want to see unedited and unmodified wall of text from yesterday. And something actual aside of that.
Yessir. I'll post from my (mom's) comp (where the post is) in a bit.
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Why you wanted to command orangebottle if he's one of your suspects for cult leader (if i get it right..)?
I wasn't thinking about a cult, i wanted his action to target me, whatever it was (if kill - since I suck it might've been better for town than another person dieing) (if bad, then same thing as previous) (if good (if it was initially on scumpartner) then it would effect me and I might be able to do something better the next night - still weakening scum :P)

So the way I see it now the best plan would be that we lynch webadict today, and Simple kills Tolyk while somebody else blocks the latter in case the third cultist can protect him. And I could use the last charge of my staff of Monster detection to find out who protected him if that's the case.

One of the following things could happen:
1)Me, Simple and somebody else with a block target him. Tolyk dies. Yay.
2)Me, Simple, and the blocker target him. Tolyk survives. Either Simple or the other guy are the cultist. 50/50 chance of getting the last guy? I like those odds.
3)Me, simple, the blocker and a fourth person target him. Tolyk survives. The fourth person is the cultist. Awesome.
4)The blocker or killer get redirected. Blurgh.

Anybody have a blocking item?
This plan works, if you weren't sure I was town.

Actually, as a cult leader, TolyK is much more dangerous than wuba. If anything goes wrong with blocking him, we have two cultists against 4 townies, one of which is absent. Not so good.

If we, on the other hand, lynch him, and NK webadict, the worst that could happen is that wuba kills somebody, meaning that we have four townies against one cultist.

So basically we swap the targets around in the plan and we're good.
Question: how could several people blocking me all be stopped?

Also, one thing. Wuba came to Simple, so it could be that he culted him. And wait a minute, I don't recall any Wuba-Simple interaction. So... Wuba, disprove this maybe?
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Re: Roguelike Mafia 3 - Same Story, Different Day [Day 3] [Need Replacement]
« Reply #379 on: September 13, 2011, 10:45:47 am »

This plan works, if you weren't sure I was town.
Wat.

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Question: how could several people blocking me all be stopped?
Because there's not several people. Only one. More screw up our reads from monster detection because then there's more leeway for lying.

And either way I don't want to NK you. I want to lynch you now because that's safer. Webadict will be NK'd.
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Re: Roguelike Mafia 3 - Same Story, Different Day [Day 3] [Need Replacement]
« Reply #380 on: September 13, 2011, 10:48:03 am »

here's that thing i promised:
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I suspect everyone (except myself :P), but most of all I suspect %%% and %%%.
Read further for reasons.
...%%% and %%% aren't players. It seems like you had an opinion when you wrote this, but you edited it so you didn't have to share them. Who were these %%%s before you removed them from your post?

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Hmm… where exactly did I talk about inactive people, other than they’re just there? Anyways, I love how you try to take my posts to a wrong turn.
Saying they're there is still talking about them.

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I didn’t. I said that it’s most likely you’re both townies going on each other, but didn’t say the others are impossible. Anyways, I’m still not sure between two of the alternatives.
...So, how did you come to that conclusion?


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What exactly do you mean here?
What I mean is: stop shitposting. This is, defined by myself anyway, posting uselessly and generally not participating. Instead of, say, scumhunting.

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HERE IT IS!
A day or two late. Gee, thanks.
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Re: Roguelike Mafia 3 - Same Story, Different Day [Day 3] [Need Replacement]
« Reply #381 on: September 13, 2011, 11:21:54 am »

here's that thing i promised:
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I suspect everyone (except myself :P), but most of all I suspect %%% and %%%.
Read further for reasons.
...%%% and %%% aren't players. It seems like you had an opinion when you wrote this, but you edited it so you didn't have to share them. Who were these %%%s before you removed them from your post?
... fuck. That's what i get for not reading throught.
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Hmm… where exactly did I talk about inactive people, other than they’re just there? Anyways, I love how you try to take my posts to a wrong turn.
Saying they're there is still talking about them.

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I didn’t. I said that it’s most likely you’re both townies going on each other, but didn’t say the others are impossible. Anyways, I’m still not sure between two of the alternatives.
...So, how did you come to that conclusion?


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What exactly do you mean here?
What I mean is: stop shitposting. This is, defined by myself anyway, posting uselessly and generally not participating. Instead of, say, scumhunting.

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HERE IT IS!
A day or two late. Gee, thanks.
welcome.  ::)
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Shakerag: Who are you personally suspicious of?
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Re: Roguelike Mafia 3 - Same Story, Different Day [Day 3] [Need Replacement]
« Reply #382 on: September 13, 2011, 02:34:12 pm »

Actually, as a cult leader, TolyK is much more dangerous than wuba. If anything goes wrong with blocking him, we have two cultists against 4 townies, one of which is absent. Not so good.
Why do you feel more confident in lynching Tolyk than Wubba?

here's that thing i promised:
Is that everything?

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Re: Roguelike Mafia 3 - Same Story, Different Day [Day 3] [Need Replacement]
« Reply #383 on: September 13, 2011, 02:43:46 pm »

that's everything, yeah. I had other parts saved in temp-memory (from the forums/firefox) but it was like several sentences.
about the %%'s, my opinions at the time were Nuke failing miserably, Orange seeming like someone was guiding him (but not too much), wuba seemed normal tho and max was hunting. couldn't get a read from (demi-)lurkers so i just said they existed.
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i just hate putting things up with no logic/fact to back them up, especially when someone already said it.  :P
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Shakerag: Who are you personally suspicious of?
At this point?  TolyK.

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Re: Roguelike Mafia 3 - Same Story, Different Day [Day 3] [Need Replacement]
« Reply #384 on: September 13, 2011, 02:47:16 pm »

just a note:

this was the order i made the posts in
wuba-simple and such
here's that thing i promised:
i was sitting on two computers and forgot to post the first one first :P
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Shakerag: Who are you personally suspicious of?
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Darvi

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Re: Roguelike Mafia 3 - Same Story, Different Day [Day 3] [Need Replacement]
« Reply #385 on: September 13, 2011, 03:07:45 pm »

Why do you feel more confident in lynching Tolyk than Wubba?
Because TolyK is the cult leader.

I saw TolyK visit wuba N1. On day one and most of day two wuba votes for TolyK.
When there's a tie between TolyK and Dariush, wuba suddenly decides that Dariush actually does look scummy, despite having claimed before that he thought him to be scum.

So why would he change his opinion so suddenly?  Because he got converted during the night and didn't want to lynch his leader.


His behavior already seemed odd to me during D2, but there was no actual proof for a cult because Dariush may very well have been scum. However after he flipped I was pretty sure that webadict was up to no good so I swapped him and Person to keep the latter from being converted or some other kind of shenanigans the cult might have planned.
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« Reply #386 on: September 13, 2011, 03:37:08 pm »

Webadict: Is this gem you mentioned the one from the title ? Who do you think are cult members if you're not one ?

Tolyk : Are you serious ? The whole thing you wanted to post yesterday was a big "No idea who is scum and i don't even care!" ? Because i can only see that. If you had no lead why there was no questions in the whole "wot"? Why you saying we know you're town ? Why  And are you seriously asking webadict to interact (attack ?) with me or that's a joke ? This time you really crossed the line between useless town and scum. Until i see some serious investigation and questioning i'm even willing to go with lynching you first. What you're doing is just ridiculous.

Darvi: Your plan got one loophole that bothers me : you can be blocked or converted by cultists without problem. Or we would lost if that happens anyway ?
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Re: Roguelike Mafia 3 - Same Story, Different Day [Day 3] [Need Replacement]
« Reply #387 on: September 13, 2011, 03:46:16 pm »

If the leader dies now then nobody can be culted, which is why I want TolyK to die now.

And if I get blocked while scanning wuba then we have to do scumhunting the old fashioned way. Sucks, but at least webadict dies.
However I think it's more likely that you gets blocked because you are going for a kill. But if that happens we can lynch webadict the next day anyway.


Another reason to kill TolyK now is so that he cannot convert Person next night, so that we can have a confirmed Townie tomorrow.
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Re: Roguelike Mafia 3 - Same Story, Different Day [Day 3] [Need Replacement]
« Reply #388 on: September 13, 2011, 03:51:06 pm »

Because TolyK is the cult leader.
You seem pretty confident. Didn't Simple also visit him?
Wouldn't it be better to lynch Wubba, and if he flips cultist then we let Simple shoot Tolyk? If Simple is the cult leader, he can't kill and convert in the same night, so Tolyk would flip town and we would know who to lynch, or nothing would happen and we know who to lynch, or Tolyk would flip scum and we don't know who to lynch, but we would have killed the cultist before he could make a convert.

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Re: Roguelike Mafia 3 - Same Story, Different Day [Day 3] [Need Replacement]
« Reply #389 on: September 13, 2011, 03:52:36 pm »

Because TolyK is the cult leader.
You seem pretty confident. Didn't Simple also visit him?
No he didn't. Not during N1 at least.
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