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Should this thread continue?

Wait for Soviet Storm Rising to be released.
- 16 (47.1%)
Don't bother continuing the let's play, but document anything modding related.
- 4 (11.8%)
Just lock it, it has had its day.
- 1 (2.9%)
Wait for a new scenario, or create one yourself.
- 5 (14.7%)
Please keep playing the same stuff over and over! I like repetition!
- 8 (23.5%)

Total Members Voted: 34


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Re: Let's play Shadow President! Hurrah! 10 years and no world war 3!
« Reply #1245 on: July 12, 2012, 09:30:56 pm »

On the subject of disable elections...

I think it is time to lose. Three terms is a good long run, might as well go out with a bang.

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« Reply #1246 on: July 12, 2012, 09:43:16 pm »

Ok, I need assistance. I have no idea what to do to save the current game from populalarity ELECTION-death. There aren't any targets to surgical strike that would help me, military spending discouragements will not work, due to the extremely high military spending we have, peace agreements simply don't work and the elections are coming up. I think it's time for a poll.

Gah, why the fuck did I write voting instead of elections?

Have you tried dropping taxes, rocketing social security and healthcare, and raising tarriffs to the point where the country is virtually isolationist?  These tend to be popular short-term measures.
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Re: Let's play Shadow President! Hurrah! 10 years and no world war 3!
« Reply #1247 on: July 12, 2012, 09:54:51 pm »

Ok, I need assistance. I have no idea what to do to save the current game from populalarity ELECTION-death. There aren't any targets to surgical strike that would help me, military spending discouragements will not work, due to the extremely high military spending we have, peace agreements simply don't work and the elections are coming up. I think it's time for a poll.

Gah, why the fuck did I write voting instead of elections?

Have you tried dropping taxes, rocketing social security and healthcare, and raising tarriffs to the point where the country is virtually isolationist?  These tend to be popular short-term measures.

I've tried. It won't kick in before the elections.
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Re: Let's play Shadow President! Hurrah! 10 years and no world war 3!
« Reply #1248 on: July 12, 2012, 10:09:38 pm »

I certainly wouldn't set all Eastern European countries as the same bloc.  Some held onto their Soviet connections far longer than others, while some were far quicker to seek Western acceptance.  Note that only about half of the Eastern European countries are part of the EU even today, which in my mind is clearly a "German-led Capitalist Bloc", although Germany seriously plays down its role due to world fears of Germany trying to take over the world again.
Okay, here is what I have so far for Eastern Europe.

Communist: Poland, Czechoslovakia, & Hungary.
Fascist: Yugoslavia, Bulgaria, & Romania.
Socialist: Albania

Also, the aftermath of World War III has caused massive changes of power, mainly in Africa & South America. Fascism has taken hold in countries like Zaire, Libya, Togo, Rwanda, Chile, etc.

Does anyone know how to use UGE to edit the troop deployments?

World Team Alliance:
Imperialist Bloc: U.S.A.
Communist Bloc: Soviet
Capitalist Bloc: Germany
Socialist Bloc: France
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Re: Let's play Shadow President! Hurrah! 10 years and no world war 3!
« Reply #1249 on: July 12, 2012, 10:11:30 pm »

Ok, I need assistance. I have no idea what to do to save the current game from populalarity ELECTION-death. There aren't any targets to surgical strike that would help me, military spending discouragements will not work, due to the extremely high military spending we have, peace agreements simply don't work and the elections are coming up. I think it's time for a poll.

Gah, why the fuck did I write voting instead of elections?


Have you tried dropping taxes, rocketing social security and healthcare, and raising tarriffs to the point where the country is virtually isolationist?  These tend to be popular short-term measures.

I've tried. It won't kick in before the elections.
Try Social Reform talks. Even if the stats of Israel & Gaza Strip are perfect, do the talks anyway.
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Re: Let's play Shadow President! Hurrah! 10 years and no world war 3!
« Reply #1250 on: July 12, 2012, 11:04:15 pm »

Turn it off!  We want to make America a dictatorship anyway. 
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« Reply #1251 on: July 13, 2012, 02:01:59 am »

'Murca needs pertection! Who needs silly elections and freedom when the.... BADGUYS! are being BAD! out there somewhere we haven't bombed yet....

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« Reply #1252 on: July 13, 2012, 02:45:03 am »

Ok, I need assistance. I have no idea what to do to save the current game from populalarity ELECTION-death. There aren't any targets to surgical strike that would help me, military spending discouragements will not work, due to the extremely high military spending we have, peace agreements simply don't work and the elections are coming up. I think it's time for a poll.

Gah, why the fuck did I write voting instead of elections?

Have you tried dropping taxes, rocketing social security and healthcare, and raising tarriffs to the point where the country is virtually isolationist?  These tend to be popular short-term measures.

I've tried. It won't kick in before the elections.

In that case, do you have a save early enough that they will?  Savescumming feels less bad than turning off elections.  =/
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Re: Let's play Shadow President! Hurrah! 10 years and no world war 3!
« Reply #1253 on: July 13, 2012, 04:36:27 am »

Well, just got this game. So I do what any sane Bay12er would do.


I invade Mexico. I go right from 50% to 33%. Whoops. Looks like the SU is ticked at me. All the sudden the UK decides to be a bitch to the SU and assist me in invading Mexico.

I sent in 15000 soldiers...
UK sent 1500

Mexico had 14000 soldiers
SU sent in 3000

I didnt think this out very well...
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Re: Let's play Shadow President! Hurrah! 10 years and no world war 3!
« Reply #1254 on: July 13, 2012, 10:02:20 am »

Communist: Poland, Czechoslovakia, & Hungary.
Fascist: Yugoslavia, Bulgaria, & Romania.
Socialist: Albania

I'd probably flip Yugoslavia and Poland around. Yugoslavia had one of the more milder communist regimes since they were not completely under the Soviet Union's thumb (it's complicated and I make no claims that I understand it). Poland, on the other hand, chafed under communist rule. And before that they chafed under Russian (and Prussian and Austrian) rule. Long story short, no love is lost between Poland and Russia. Unless the Soviets pull the same crap they did after
WWII, Poland is much more likely to turn Fascist than Communist.

Also, what about the Ukraine? Or Lithuania? Or all of those other Baltic countries whose names I always forget? (Uh, Estonia, Belgrade... uh... Finland? Does Finland count?)
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« Reply #1255 on: July 13, 2012, 11:50:47 am »

I don't think any of the countries that were SSR's (Soviet Socialist Republics), at least the ones that directly border Russia, are represented in the game, thus there's no Ukraine, Turkmenistan, Belarus, Estonia, etc. There is a Finland however, since they historically maintained independence from the Russians.

It would be cool if those SSR's could break off of the USSR though.
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« Reply #1256 on: July 13, 2012, 12:31:09 pm »

That all relies on whether or not you can mod the actual map to be different.
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« Reply #1257 on: July 13, 2012, 01:05:58 pm »

I'd probably flip Yugoslavia and Poland around. Yugoslavia had one of the more milder communist regimes since they were not completely under the Soviet Union's thumb (it's complicated and I make no claims that I understand it). Poland, on the other hand, chafed under communist rule. And before that they chafed under Russian (and Prussian and Austrian) rule. Long story short, no love is lost between Poland and Russia. Unless the Soviets pull the same crap they did after
WWII, Poland is much more likely to turn Fascist than Communist.
Since the Soviets did have a large number of troops in Poland and the U.S. had unilaterally withdrawn from mainland Europe, Poland really had no choice in the matter. As for Yugoslavia, the Fascist government represents Slobodan Milošević having taken over the Yugoslav government after the previous leader fell victim to nuclear fallout. (Nuclear fallout had reached the whole world--In just Australia which was pretty far from the nuked countries, 3 million people died). Milošević was more fascist then communist due to his treatments of other ethnic groups in real life, such as the Albanians.
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« Reply #1258 on: July 13, 2012, 02:48:57 pm »

I'd probably flip Yugoslavia and Poland around. Yugoslavia had one of the more milder communist regimes since they were not completely under the Soviet Union's thumb (it's complicated and I make no claims that I understand it). Poland, on the other hand, chafed under communist rule. And before that they chafed under Russian (and Prussian and Austrian) rule. Long story short, no love is lost between Poland and Russia. Unless the Soviets pull the same crap they did after
WWII, Poland is much more likely to turn Fascist than Communist.
Since the Soviets did have a large number of troops in Poland and the U.S. had unilaterally withdrawn from mainland Europe, Poland really had no choice in the matter. As for Yugoslavia, the Fascist government represents Slobodan Milošević having taken over the Yugoslav government after the previous leader fell victim to nuclear fallout. (Nuclear fallout had reached the whole world--In just Australia which was pretty far from the nuked countries, 3 million people died). Milošević was more fascist then communist due to his treatments of other ethnic groups in real life, such as the Albanians.
Ah, okay then. That makes sense.
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« Reply #1259 on: July 14, 2012, 12:55:03 am »

Lots of progress has been made on my post-apocalyptic scenario. I pretty much have the ideologies and WTA setup squared away. I still have to figure out how to program events as well as troop deployments however I can still zip up all files to a particular saved game and email them to fellow Shadow President players. I have posted a brief background to the scenario as well as several ingame screenshots.

Scenario Background:
August 2, 1990: Iraq invades Kuwait. Despite US threats of military & nuclear retaliation, Saddam does not back down. The United States hits Iraq with ten nuclear missiles, then invades. Turkey invades as well and before the day is over, Iraq is defeated and taken over by Turkey. Sadly the victory celebrations are cut short when China launches a full scale nuclear attack on the United States.
August 3, 1990: The United Kingdom and United States each launches a nuclear attack on China, crippling the communist regime and reducing their nuclear abilities from World Reach to Regional. 
Rest of 1990: The world is in total anarchy from the recent nuclear strikes. United States unilaterally withdraws all troops from Europe and launches a new campaign to take over all North America. After the Soviet Union somehow left the Soviet WTA despite still being communist, the U.S. was able to launch dozens of surgical strikes which wipe out their nuclear spending.
Start of 1991: With the U.S. military out of Europe, the Soviet Union re-establishes communist governments in several Eastern European countries. Fascism and Fundamental Islam are on the rise. In Ireland, a pro-IRA socialist government assumes control and are already at odds with Great Britain over control of North Ireland. The United States has abandoned Capitalism and have made Imperialism an official part of their foreign policy. Germany assumes America's former role as leader of the Capitalist world.

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