Jim. Look at that and tell me he is not scummy when he is outright contradicting himself from post to post.
Jim isn't supposed to be scumhunting anymore. He's dead.
At least, I think that's how ICs work.
That's probably right.
I'm not even going to go further because you just contradicted yourself in your second line. (Not in reading, I read it all, duh.)
Nah, that's my job. Because it's me versus him.
In fact I did not see the post. Just because omehting pertans to me doesn't automatically mean I see it.
If you didn't see the post, how could you possibly have responded to my comment about your awful grammar? You're backpedaling, scum.
Huh? You made several grammar comments, in several different posts. You're backpedaling here. Besides, the problem here is not grammar but typing. Get it right.
Yes, I did say he was tunneling there. However, he WAS tunneling me for at least some of the time (and I was referring to him tunneling a few of my recent posts there), and let me put it this way, you can't have a tunnel fight with less than two people.
I never said either of you weren't tunneling eachother. In fact, I called both of you out on it at the start of the day.
Good. Then that's taken care of.
Also, the reason you uncluded that point is becuse you're scrabbling for ridiculous reasons to get the town in LyLo tomorrow. IN Beginner's Mafia, LyLo has been good for scum. LyLo is generally good for scum, in fact.
No. I am trying to get you lynched because I believe you're scum. Not all of my reasons are ridiculous; you just choose to dismiss them as such.
The burden of proof is on the attacker, not the victim. What i'm trying to say here is: if you want to claim something is ridiculous, invalid, or whathaveyou, prove it. Otherwise it's all just empty words.
I didn't say all of them were ridiculous. I pointed out a few which are either twisted beyond recognition (The vote/unvote I was illustrating my point with) or just plain not reason to lynch someone with (Grammar)
And I've disproved those points several times by now. Move on to new points. Your refusal to do so indicates that we're getting in
another tunnelfight.
If you thought I was scum, you would be asking actual scumhunt questions, not making ridiculous crap up and trying to find the strangest possible meaning nto my posts just to get me lynched. If you were scumhunting, you would look for sensible questions. You're really just trying to get to LyLo.
Or I would be presenting my case and trying to get the town to lynch scum. Kinda like I am now.
That would be a valid point if your case wasn't "Ooh he got in a tunnel fight ooh he missed that post, ooh by illustrating point he was somehow actually voting for me and using scare tactics, ooh he has bad grammar! Lynchlynchlynchlynchlynch!!!"
*sigh* There is a difference between scumhunting and trying to get someone lynched with ridiculous reasons. You still seem to not understand that. Also, I have already broken down that reason, and shown it's not a reason. My reasons for voting him weren't fake.
You know, getting you to tunnel me has provided a lot of material for all of us to analyze. It's much more effective than any random question. There's also a difference between calling something something it isn't and actually proving that it is.
Really, Orangebottle, I've answered all of your questions repeatedly, yet you haven't moved on to new ones. If any of us is tunneling here, Orangebottle, it's you. Trying that card won't get me to burst into tears and root for scum. I'm sorry.
YOu're trying to get town lynched to gt us to LyLo. If you really wanted yo lynch scum, you would be going for sensible, real scumhunting reasons. Making insane crap up really doesn't help town.
No. I'm trying to get scum lynched to get us victory.
You are? Then why are you using the ridiculous points such as A, grammar, B somehow misinterpreting me illustrating my point about OMGUS excuses to make it sound like scare tactics (Seriously, what the heck?), C calling me scummy without backing it up and saying that calling me scummy is a good point, and never moving on to new questions, tunneling me (and saying I'm tunneling you) instead of actual scumhunting? Answer me, scum.
You had been taking about how he clearly wasn;t ignoring me at all (he was, even if not the whole time, and note I never actually stated he was ignoring me all the time.
Actually, it's that you stated that he was ignoring you in general. With posts like "I'm sorry youre just ignorin me now". Then, today, you clarified it to "He was ignoring parts of my posts." To use that point in my argument, I have to prove that your argument against him was bullshit. And I did exactly that.
Why don't you analyze Mormota's posts then. If you're truly suspicious of me for that, you need to see that he was saying the exact same thing, more than I was, and question him too? Or are you just using this as leverage to get me lynched? ANd so you say you proved my argument was crap. You never did. You never showed how he wasn't tunneling me. Therefore you're lying, and your point is null.
1) Oh really? You're scummy then! This unbacked-up claim is the ultimate reason everyone should vote you ahahahah! Yeeeaaah, that's not the way it works Orangebottle.
2) Please explain to me how that is relevant. You're not even voting for anyone in there, and therefore it's not an example of reasoning.
3) This is pathetic. I think I'm understood now. Anyway, forcing the town into LyLo isn't good for town. Also, to get anywhere with hunting you need to actually pull up sensible reasons. Typing and posting prowess is not one of these, and it wouldn't be even if that was a problem right now. More scrabbling...
1) I was telling you that if you read my post you'd already know why I think you're scummy. Of course, you are incapable of reading between the lines, so you just posted that.
2)You claimed that I was saying that Mormota didn't tunnel you at all. I actually did the opposite of that, and called you both out on it at the same time.
3)The town won't be forced into LYLO if we lynch scum. Scum like yourself. And no, this point makes perfect sense. I explained my reasoning behind it and you're just like,"No, no, that's utterly ridiculous."
Why? You need to be able to type well no matter what role you are in this game because otherwise people will get tired of trying to translate your shit and lynch you, or at best ignore you.
1) I'd already countered your points. Of course, since you are incapable of doing anything but repeating the same crap over and over and over again, you just posted that.
2) Then why at this very moment are you claiming that my argument that Mormota was ignoring me is wrong? Tunneling=ignoring, by the way.
3) If we lynch town though, it's LyLo. And judging by your reasoning (the ridiculous stuff I exposed as such earlier), you're the scum- It'd be LyLo.
I made no false claims. It WAS an OMGUS because his supposed reason that my claims were false I had already disproved by then.
Proof. Give me proof. Don't just say "I disproved his reasons by then". Give me a link to a post where you trounced his reasoning, or hell, quote it here. Mind you, if the post doesn't say why his reasoning is false/disproved/whatever, it's not going to work. [/quote.] The problem is that I can't edit my post, and the Topic summary only goes so far.
I had included what he ignored in that post or the one after. And he haad ignored me some of the time. You're twisting my words to make it sound like I said he ignored me every single second. I did not. So if this makes me so suspicious, what do you thinf of the fact that Mormota did the exact same thing?
God, dude, don't just insert your crap in the middle of a bunch of quoted text.
I missed it. This is not blatant ignoring. However if you're going to blatantly ignore me talking about how I did not see it, really that's scummy.
My point is, how could you possibly not see it when it's right next to the statement you actually responded to?!
Already said above.
More proof of your scrabbling. How do you disguise that as a "scare tactic" If I wanted to vote you, I would have voted, and there's no way in heck someone can take illustrating a point like that for a threat. It's not a quick unvote. It was an unvote in the same post, in other words, I never actually cat my vote at you. (I did later, but that's a different case.) You're scrabbling for ridiculous reasons, and this here is the cream of the insane crop.
It's a scare tactic because you threatened me with a vote to get me to back off. And yes, it is a threat. You could easily have just said "What if I voted for you right after you'd done it to me, for little reason? Would you consider that an OMGUS? I would." but no, you went for the red, intimidating text in an attempt to force me to back off. It failed.
Wow, you really don't understand do you? Clearly not. YOu're being remarkably thick-skulled right now, and I'll explain how, in big sentences so you can understand:
I was repeating what I thought Mormota was doing by exaggerating. If I wanted you to back off, I would not have unvoted. You have to be being reaaallllly ignorant to think I WAS threatening you, especially considering what I wrote after I did it.
I attacked Mormota first. I'm not "only suspicious of people who attack me" Try again.
Yes you are. You aren't suspicious of IronyOwl or Flandre, and neither of them have attacked you. You weren't suspicious of Zombie Urist or Jim Groovester yesterday, and neither of them attacked you. Let's face it: the only reason you're after me right now is because I attacked you first. Mormota and I have both received your vote, and both of us have launched full-scale attacks on you.
I would really appreciate it if you understood Mormota attacked me because I attacked him. You attacked me, an that would be fine, but you're acting very scummily in the process of doing so. I'm not suspicious of IronyOwl and Flandre because they've been lurky, but with RL reasons, so I have no matrial to go on with them.
More scrabbling. Just because I hadn't been able to post well (and knowing how to quote now, it's changed), in no way makes me scum, and now that my pots are legible, this point fails even harder.
No. It makes you hard to read and annoying in general. [sarcasm]And yes. Your pots are very legible. Well done.[/sarcasm]
[sarcasm] Oh man I typoed a word. I suppose I'll get instalynched now that I mistyped a word. [/sarcasm]
And now I think I've pulled your reasons for voting me apart. But considering your only worry right now is scrabbling for all of the bullcrap reasons you can come up and getting the town into LyLo, YOu probably won't even try scumhunting (for real, ridiculous crap that makes no sense doesn't count), and undoubtedly you won't let logic get in your way.
Nope, I'm still up and punching. Also: I've done way more scumhunting than you have. Don't even try to deny it.
I will deny it. I won't back off, sorry. Because you see, making up the ridiculous reasons I pulled apart earlier in this post and refusing to move on to new ones does not count as scumhunting. You're up and punching, but you're not scumhunting, and as I said, you won't let logic get in your way.
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