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[da_nang]

The sheer amount of greed and ignorance from Bethesda/Zenimax is appalling.

[scourge728]

As long as they don't try to touch skyrim again, I'll be fine (mostly because even this new laptop can't run fallout 4)

[IronTomato]

This is fucked.

[RickRollYou2]

At least existing mods stay unpaid, I guess? It'd be much worse if they shut down all existing mods and moved them into the CC (that said they did try to do that on Steam but backlash and stuff iirc)

[Blaze]

Already posted about the CC in another thread, but I'll repost here:

Paid Mods/10

Edit: Wow, at the time of this post, Creation Club has just gone live. And it is an utter clusterfort.

1. It forces you to download EVERY MOD that exists in the creation club, all 2.1gb.
2. Those files are unencrypted, but missing the plugin files. So someone could just create a plugin to use those assets.
3. Someone already has.
4. Utterly destroys your load order by forcing plugin files to be loaded alphabetically. This cannot be undone without rolling back.
5. Reports are surfacing that paid mods do not work with free mods, such as the pip-boy skins mod not working with completely unrelated mods.
6. One of the files is literally named "Horse Armor" way to rub salt in the wound Zennymax.

The more I look into it, the more I see that the Creation Club was destined to fail from the beginning.

The "download the entire creation club mod list" thing was due to the 900MB limit per game for non-essential files on the PS4, by forcing everyone to download the game as an "update" for the main game was to get around this. But there was literally no reason to do so for PC and Xbox users (Xbox has a 2GB limit, which is fairly adequate).

The absolute limit for records per mod in the Creation Club is 4096. That may sound like a lot, but considering every sound, object, item, event trigger, leveled list, dialogue, etc takes up a record, you'd have trouble fitting all but the most basic of mods, especially if you plan to add a quest.

With that kind of restriction I can't really see CC as anything more than a tool to peddle all those nickle-and-dime mods that add an "EPIC ARMOR" and such.

[umiman]

I'm kinda believing the tinfoil hat theories where people are saying that the devs are intentionally sinking this boat just to shut the bosses up about it.

[Jimmy]

I usually apply Hanlon's razor: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

[umiman]

I usually apply Hanlon's razor: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

Indeed. That could very likely be the case as well. Bethesda does like to be imbecillic.

Either way I hope this goes the way of the Steam paid mods.

[Dunamisdeos]

I mean I've certainly lost interest in future games that have the CC as a "feature"

[scourge728]

Just don't confuse the creation club (CC) with the creation KIT (ck) as that's the tool that they made skyrim with, and then let people make mods with, back when Bethesda liked seeing the community grow and expand and not try to steal mods

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

I mean I've certainly lost interest in future games that have the CC as a "feature"

I've actually just lost interest in Bethesda games in general.  I mean, they just turned their games into bloatware for fuck's sake.  Sure, the current size of the mods autodownloaded is small, but the amount of mods there are small.  What if there were 10 times as many?  100 times?  Can easily go to a 60 GB download for the Creation Club.  Then there's the fact that Bethesda seemingly keeps compatibility of their mods by updating the .exe, which if done fast enough would basically nuke the Script Extender's ability to be updated...

[Dunamisdeos]

I mean I've certainly lost interest in future games that have the CC as a "feature"

I've actually just lost interest in Bethesda games in general.  I mean, they just turned their games into bloatware for fuck's sake.  Sure, the current size of the mods autodownloaded is small, but the amount of mods there are small.  What if there were 10 times as many?  100 times?  Can easily go to a 60 GB download for the Creation Club.  Then there's the fact that Bethesda seemingly keeps compatibility of their mods by updating the .exe, which if done fast enough would basically nuke the Script Extender's ability to be updated...

Oops, we accidentally broke all your mods. By coincidence here's something you can give us money for to make it better. Unavoidable, sorry.

[Jimmy]

On the plus side, at least they're not making shitty pay-to-win mobile games instead.

Oh wait.

[My Name is Immaterial]

_{i actually enjoyed fallout shelter}

[Ultimuh]

_{i actually enjoyed fallout shelter}

_{same here}