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Author Topic: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim  (Read 1620860 times)

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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #13095 on: December 10, 2016, 06:26:54 am »

I tried doing a mage build.

I discovered that bound weapons can soul trap enemies with a certain perk.

I've wound up devolving into a stealth archer again, just with firebolt backup.
That's still useful for a mage build, though. How are you going to mage without - 100% casting cost on two schools of magic?
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #13096 on: December 10, 2016, 09:41:15 am »

The best thing about that pic is that it repeatedly spells "Dumner". It's only flaw is that it doesn't spell Lydia as Lidya.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #13097 on: December 11, 2016, 04:39:54 pm »

That pic made me laugh.
Then I realized that out of the 5 characters I've finished the game with 4 ended up being stealth archers one way or the other (even though none started out that way)...

...now I'm laughing even harder.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #13098 on: December 11, 2016, 05:04:48 pm »

That picture was amusing until it called Altmer "Thalmor". I mean. The name's in the flippin character creation menu.

Also, I am making a deliberate effort at averting the stealth archer stereotype with my current character. Who is fundamentally a stealth archer (khajiit thief with the shadow sign, there's basically no avoiding using archery), but instead of daggers she mains two-handed swords. I'd really like there to be some feats that boost two-handed sword sneak attack damage.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #13099 on: December 11, 2016, 05:05:16 pm »

Let it at least be known that the people who made that photo know at least as much about Elder Scrolls lore as I do and probably appreciate it more.

It's a really transparent parody of what such people facetiously call "casuels", the kind of people who may actually be under the opinion that "altmer" and "thalmor" are interchangeable terms.

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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #13100 on: December 11, 2016, 05:19:09 pm »

Aren't they? :P

Also, I've never played a stealth archer. I've never even played an archer. Magic 4 lyfe
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #13101 on: December 11, 2016, 06:41:59 pm »

I've never played an actual stealth archer, but I'm not sure I've ever played a character that didn't like to sometimes open up combat with a shitty stealth archery attack. Prior to the point in the game where I admitted I did not have the carrying capacity to spare for a bow, that is.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #13102 on: December 11, 2016, 07:51:16 pm »

I do miss Acrobatics and Speed in Skyrim. Zipping along, vaulting over edges and furniture and slash and hack and parry. It made things feel like a Musketeer film. Still, the perching, furniture hopping and run-around-the-pillar still works quite well, in an emergency.

I was thinking of running a karate-cat, but the hand-to-hand damage do not scale very well, even if the finishing moves are lovely. I can probably add in some rather cheaty rings for the purpose, but I'm experimenting with bound weapons for now. Makes sense for an assassin, too, when you are like me and roleplay disguises. It is rather fun, when the stealth sniping thing have lost its appeal.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #13103 on: December 11, 2016, 09:09:59 pm »

Unarmed damage as Khajiit starts off very good, at 22 damage at level 1 vs most weapon, magic and ranged options come nowhere near that until a couple of perks are invested.

Of course, your unarmed damage never goes up, unless you wear heavy armor, and take Fists of Steel, which increases your unarmed damage by 0.5x Gauntlet armor rating. I believe it caps at something like 42, normally.

Some mods, especially perk mods, attempt to overhaul unarmed into a viable build. Ordinator is a good example. Here are the perks available that affect unarmed in Ordinator:

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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #13104 on: December 11, 2016, 11:31:17 pm »

That's good info.  And of course there is the Fortify Unarmed enchantment which Silverthrone mentioned, but I don't know how well that scales.  Technically unlimited, but I'm reading that each enchanted piece (2 rings and 1 gloves, I assume) boost by 25% at 100 enchanting. 

No idea if that's accurate (wikia doesn't even bother with numbers), or how it stacks with Khajiit's base 22 damage or Fists of Steel.  Fists of Steel sadly only cares about *base* armor, so smithing up excellent gloves won't help - only the material.

Apparently Argonians get 20 base unarmed damage for some reason, and a special tail-swipe??

Unrelated:  Khajiit iz inosent of al crimeeee  http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/652/892/876.jpg
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #13105 on: December 12, 2016, 03:35:48 am »

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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #13106 on: December 12, 2016, 05:54:58 am »

Moon Sugar and Skooma is supposed to be a parallel of real life cocaine and crack, but it looks more like krokodil in that poster.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #13107 on: December 12, 2016, 06:15:12 am »

I kind of disagree.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #13108 on: December 12, 2016, 07:17:29 am »

My character is accumulating Skooma on themselves for some reason. Not using it, but she just keeps happening onto bottles of the stuff and pocketing them. She is Khajiit, but I'm sure that's a coincidence.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #13109 on: December 12, 2016, 07:41:15 am »

Of course, your unarmed damage never goes up, unless you wear heavy armor, and take Fists of Steel, which increases your unarmed damage by 0.5x Gauntlet armor rating. I believe it caps at something like 42, normally.
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