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[Bauglir]

Hmm, not sure if I should go Vampire Lord or Dawnguard.

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Go Dawnguard and have Serana make you a Vampire Lord after you finish the quest?

[Blaze]

Hmm, not sure if I should go Vampire Lord or Dawnguard.

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Go Dawnguard and have Serana make you a Vampire Lord after you finish the quest?

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Joining that Dawnguard means that you won't be able to do the Rings of Blood Magic, Amulets of Night Power, and Bloodstone Chalice quests; all of which are significant buffs for a vampire.

Strictly speaking, going Vampire Lord is better for mages since vampire spells scale of magic skills.
Joining the Dawnguard gives you access to crossbows, and quests that let you make improved crossbows among other things. It's a nice ranged alternative if you don't want to use magic but don't want to spend too many perks on archery.

[xaritscin]

thanks for noticing, fixed the enumerations.

as for the discussion on Dawnguard Vs Volkihar.

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it depends really.

if you side with the vampires you can get commodities that arent avaliable for the average vampire. first of all, they have human cattle so you can feed upon them. and quests and spells to help you compensate for your vulnerabilities.

i dont really like the idea of the whole human cattle and making the moth priest into a vampire thrall tbh. that's why i've never tried the Volkihar side of the expansion. there's a good side though. you can release Serana's mother from ther imprisonment in the Soul Cairn, so they can reunite again in the castle.

if you side with the Dawnguard, you get the whole Crossbow stuff. like improving them, making elemental based bolts and getting to dwarven weaponry on them. you still can get to become a vampire both during the questline and after it (you can decide if you want to be a vampire before entering the Soul Cairn, or you can ask Serana for it after finishing the questline). the Volkihar clan will be destroyed and the human cattle along with the rampant vampire activity will cease.

but Serana's mother wont have a place to return. as far as i remember, that part of the ending was only for the vampire gameplay. on the other hand the moth priest wont become a vampire thrall and you can sell the Elder Scrolls to him for some cash to make.

oh and they have Huskies. the vampires have the Deathounds but i prefer the armored doges :3

[Metalax]

thanks for noticing, fixed the enumerations.

as for the discussion on Dawnguard Vs Volkihar.

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it depends really.

if you side with the vampires you can get commodities that arent avaliable for the average vampire. first of all, they have human cattle so you can feed upon them. and quests and spells to help you compensate for your vulnerabilities.

i dont really like the idea of the whole human cattle and making the moth priest into a vampire thrall tbh. that's why i've never tried the Volkihar side of the expansion. there's a good side though. you can release Serana's mother from ther imprisonment in the Soul Cairn, so they can reunite again in the castle.

if you side with the Dawnguard, you get the whole Crossbow stuff. like improving them, making elemental based bolts and getting to dwarven weaponry on them. you still can get to become a vampire both during the questline and after it (you can decide if you want to be a vampire before entering the Soul Cairn, or you can ask Serana for it after finishing the questline). the Volkihar clan will be destroyed and the human cattle along with the rampant vampire activity will cease.

but Serana's mother wont have a place to return. as far as i remember, that part of the ending was only for the vampire gameplay. on the other hand the moth priest wont become a vampire thrall and you can sell the Elder Scrolls to him for some cash to make.

oh and they have Huskies. the vampires have the Deathounds but i prefer the armored doges :3

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Serana's mother will return from the Soul Cairn once you have completed the entire questline for the Dawnguard, but you have to go back into the Soul Cairn and all the way back to her to tell her to return.

[Teneb]

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oh and they have Huskies. the vampires have the Deathounds but i prefer the armored doges :3

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You forgot about the trolls, too

[xaritscin]

thanks for noticing, fixed the enumerations.

as for the discussion on Dawnguard Vs Volkihar.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

it depends really.

if you side with the vampires you can get commodities that arent avaliable for the average vampire. first of all, they have human cattle so you can feed upon them. and quests and spells to help you compensate for your vulnerabilities.

i dont really like the idea of the whole human cattle and making the moth priest into a vampire thrall tbh. that's why i've never tried the Volkihar side of the expansion. there's a good side though. you can release Serana's mother from ther imprisonment in the Soul Cairn, so they can reunite again in the castle.

if you side with the Dawnguard, you get the whole Crossbow stuff. like improving them, making elemental based bolts and getting to dwarven weaponry on them. you still can get to become a vampire both during the questline and after it (you can decide if you want to be a vampire before entering the Soul Cairn, or you can ask Serana for it after finishing the questline). the Volkihar clan will be destroyed and the human cattle along with the rampant vampire activity will cease.

but Serana's mother wont have a place to return. as far as i remember, that part of the ending was only for the vampire gameplay. on the other hand the moth priest wont become a vampire thrall and you can sell the Elder Scrolls to him for some cash to make.

oh and they have Huskies. the vampires have the Deathounds but i prefer the armored doges :3

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Serana's mother will return from the Soul Cairn once you have completed the entire questline for the Dawnguard, but you have to go back into the Soul Cairn and all the way back to her to tell her to return.

really?, the wiki has lied to me all these years then e.e, dem thalmor must have been trolling me...

[xaritscin]

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oh and they have Huskies. the vampires have the Deathounds but i prefer the armored doges :3

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You forgot about the trolls, too

oh right, the trolls, and the armory. the Dawnguard has some of the best designs for heavy armor i've seen in the game. right on point with the Blades or the Morrowind designs..

[Kot]

I strolled around in Dawnguard Heavy Armour (even if at that point I could have stuff 92394923492393249 times better) and shoot Vampires with crossbows. I had best fun playing as fantasy commando with stealth but not afraid to chop people up with an axe when it comes to that. I really liked Dawnguard, and Isran is a cool guy, despite being an asshole. I mean, he gets his head out of his arse if you get vampirized somehow and kinda tolerates Serana. Meanwhile Harkon is literally Vampire Hitler. The rest of his gang seems slightly better, but yeah, the whole human cattle shit is pretty bad... and I always had a soft spot for HFY, so Dawnguard 4 lyfe. Also fucking huskies so fucking cute oh my god come to me let's snuggle wooof wooof cute doggie ;-; .

And remember, sleep is for the weak.

[miauw62]

man that's sort of lame since i dont really want to be hitler in this playthrough but heavy armor and crossbows are sort of useless to me :v

[Kot]

man that's sort of lame since i dont really want to be hitler in this playthrough but heavy armor and crossbows are sort of useless to me :v

They also have cool looking not-heavy armour. The heavy version is basically more bulkier with PAULDRONS and helmet that doesn't suck cocks. They also have huskies. You can play Dawnguard whatever you want tho, I even tried to become background healer for my squad but I got a bit angry over AI issues after a while so...

[Teneb]

Furthemore, keep in mind the DLC also adds the aetherium quest chain, started with the Aetherium Wars book. There is one in the ruins of the vigilants' base, near Windhelm. You can also find them elsewhere.

[Metalax]

thanks for noticing, fixed the enumerations.

as for the discussion on Dawnguard Vs Volkihar.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

it depends really.

if you side with the vampires you can get commodities that arent avaliable for the average vampire. first of all, they have human cattle so you can feed upon them. and quests and spells to help you compensate for your vulnerabilities.

i dont really like the idea of the whole human cattle and making the moth priest into a vampire thrall tbh. that's why i've never tried the Volkihar side of the expansion. there's a good side though. you can release Serana's mother from ther imprisonment in the Soul Cairn, so they can reunite again in the castle.

if you side with the Dawnguard, you get the whole Crossbow stuff. like improving them, making elemental based bolts and getting to dwarven weaponry on them. you still can get to become a vampire both during the questline and after it (you can decide if you want to be a vampire before entering the Soul Cairn, or you can ask Serana for it after finishing the questline). the Volkihar clan will be destroyed and the human cattle along with the rampant vampire activity will cease.

but Serana's mother wont have a place to return. as far as i remember, that part of the ending was only for the vampire gameplay. on the other hand the moth priest wont become a vampire thrall and you can sell the Elder Scrolls to him for some cash to make.

oh and they have Huskies. the vampires have the Deathounds but i prefer the armored doges :3

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Serana's mother will return from the Soul Cairn once you have completed the entire questline for the Dawnguard, but you have to go back into the Soul Cairn and all the way back to her to tell her to return.

really?, the wiki has lied to me all these years then e.e, dem thalmor must have been trolling me...

I'm reasonably sure the wiki article has always said that She'll return when talked to after the quest is complete without saying it only applied to picking one side.

[Beggars` Sect]

I see...dead animals. Not all of them...mainly chickens in the first village and some odd deer here and there. But there are also live ones like rabbits or cows.

It`s kind of disconcerting...and confusing. I`m worried it might be a bug since I`m playing on a GSYNC monitor locked to 100Hz framerate and refresh - and as we know going over 60 is bound to cause trouble. However, I had massive problems with glitching animals when  I was going over 100Hz - after locking to this rate these stopped.

So now just unsure what`s up: a mod conflict? A natural Skyrim ecosystem with some killer fox on the loose? Any ideas?

[xaritscin]

Furthemore, keep in mind the DLC also adds the aetherium quest chain, started with the Aetherium Wars book. There is one in the ruins of the vigilants' base, near Windhelm. You can also find them elsewhere.

the only thing i find annoying with the Aetherium Wars is that the questline is bugged unless you start it reading the book. i had to reset a character in order to do it right.

and the rewards arent really worth. i like the staff, but in higher lvls it kinda gets off. specially compared to other summons, the Dwarven Sphere is good for some matches, but most of the time a Dremora Lord gets the job done without much effort.

but anyways.

tried a Redguard Vampire gameplay, the first mission you get from the vampires is funny. mostly the setting, i dont want to spoil anything.
got as much as getting the Moth Priest. then scrapped the gameplay, it was getting boring.

i dont know what to play tbh. started a nord axeman, want to test how good are one handed axes. my main issue with the game right now is trying to find a way to level without getting bored of repeating content. i've visited most places in the time i have played the game.

[Blaze]

and the rewards arent really worth.

Zephyr is arguably the best bow until you get Auriel's bow, because it's significantly faster than regular bows (mostly due to the bugged way speed bonuses work). The staff is fun, but not really that useful. The shield is eh. The crown is a second standing stone bonus (some of which are pretty ridiculous), and you can still benefit from custom fit because you can wear certain headgear with it.

i dont know what to play tbh. started a nord axeman, want to test how good are one handed axes. my main issue with the game right now is trying to find a way to level without getting bored of repeating content. i've visited most places in the time i have played the game.

Bleeding damage from the perk is pretty meh to be honest.