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[KingofstarrySkies]

Oh, and the High-King only went along with the Treaty because if he didn't, Skyrim'd be fucked.

So Skyrim is fucked.

Empire side, however, brings them back to the EMPIRE. So if the NAZI ELVES do attack, they're not a third party who will be wrecked by both sides.

So yeah! Empire is intelligent, has decent power, can have dragons on their side, and aren't there for power.

[Putnam]

nazi elves

they ain't that
this is word of god here, Michael Kirkbride created the Thalmor, they ain't nazis

anyway:

can have dragons on their side

wut?

[KingofstarrySkies]

Dovahkiin works with Paarthurax, stays good with him, and then the whole Akavir dragon worshipers thing? I dunno, I'm a nub at Elder Scrolls Lore.

[Putnam]

The Akavir dragon worshipers' only interaction with Paarthurnax is asking the Dovahkiin to kill him, so I don't think that'll work out.

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

The Akavir dragon worshipers' only interaction with Paarthurnax is asking the Dovahkiin to kill him, so I don't think that'll work out.

That's the blades, not the worshipers.

[Putnam]

The Blades are the only vestige of that culture in Tamriel as of Skyrim.

[Orange Wizard]

The Blades are dicks. Paarthurnax is cool.

Edit:

nazi elves

they ain't that
this is word of god here, Michael Kirkbride created the Thalmor, they ain't nazis

They're still awful. There are many awful things besides Nazis.

[KingofstarrySkies]

I was like, AHAHHAHAHFUCK YOU to the Blades. Buncha dicks.

[BFEL]

Ok, still waiting for help disabling Papyrus Logging, and also apparently the WEAPONS are fine now, but the ARMOR stats are borked. Fucking hell. IA armors are now useless because less then half as protective as equivalent vanilla stuff. Fuck.

Ulfric was deemed as a potential Thamor asset and had gone under the equivalent of brainwashing.  Not the best guy to lead an army against them.  Plus, his anger at the elves could cost him the ability to utilize any dissenters from Valenwood.  It may once have been a strong powerbase for the Thalmor at the beginning, but their purges would undoubtedly cause dissent.  Empire would use that.

He was deemed that in a Thalmor report...a report by people with LEGENDARY skills in misdirection and subterfuge, it wouldn't be surprising if they predicted that would be seen and assumed to be true. And said report says nothing about brainwashing, only that they essentially lied to him to make him start the war.

Oh, and the High-King only went along with the Treaty because if he didn't, Skyrim'd be fucked.

So Skyrim is fucked.

Empire side, however, brings them back to the EMPIRE. So if the NAZI ELVES do attack, they're not a third party who will be wrecked by both sides.

So yeah! Empire is intelligent, has decent power, can have dragons on their side, and aren't there for power.

Empire side brings them back to a broken and outdated "Empire" that is still reeling from the LAST time it went up against the elves. And for what happens when third parties resist the Thalmor, see HAMMERFELL BITCHES

Empire WAS intelligent, HAD decent power and are on their last legs regardless of what you do in game. Oh and of course they are being watched every second from within by the elves. They are DOOMED.

nazi elves

they ain't that
this is word of god here, Michael Kirkbride created the Thalmor, they ain't nazis

He can call them whatever he wants, they walk like Nazis, they talk like Nazis, they exterminate anyone they don't see as part of their superior lineage like Nazis.
I call em Nazis.

[starscream]

The nationalism might have been what brought me to really dislike the Stormcloak questline.  As I was playing through it, my approval went from "Rebels, yeah!" to "I picked the wrong side." to, at the end, where Tullius dies, "Dammit, where's the undo button?"

yeah.  all it takes is a visit to windhelm to realize, something's rotten in the camp of stormcloaks.

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

Ulfric was deemed as a potential Thamor asset and had gone under the equivalent of brainwashing.  Not the best guy to lead an army against them.  Plus, his anger at the elves could cost him the ability to utilize any dissenters from Valenwood.  It may once have been a strong powerbase for the Thalmor at the beginning, but their purges would undoubtedly cause dissent.  Empire would use that.

He was deemed that in a Thalmor report...a report by people with LEGENDARY skills in misdirection and subterfuge, it wouldn't be surprising if they predicted that would be seen and assumed to be true. And said report says nothing about brainwashing, only that they essentially lied to him to make him start the war.

A report that none of them believed anyone would get their hands on.  That report was for Thalmor eyes only.  Why would they lie to themselves?

Empire side brings them back to a broken and outdated "Empire" that is still reeling from the LAST time it went up against the elves. And for what happens when third parties resist the Thalmor, see HAMMERFELL BITCHES

Empire WAS intelligent, HAD decent power and are on their last legs regardless of what you do in game. Oh and of course they are being watched every second from within by the elves. They are DOOMED.

At the time of the war, the Thalmor had great footing in the lands it had, while the empire was busy trying to calm things down in the aftermath of the Void Nights.  In addition, the Thalmor had surprise on their side.  After it passed, the empire threw them out.  Treaty was made due to everything behind them was falling apart.

Interesting to note: if you look at the two battles, in the former, the Thalmor couldn't stop the Empire from breaking through their lines, and in the latter, the Empire wiped out the Thalmor army.

[WillowLuman]

Though the Thalmor did raze the IC and find and decapitate every blades agent in their lands.

Not that it matters much in the end. Apparently the Thalmor will succeed in their ultimate plan, resulting in themselves and everyone else suffering some kind of metaphysical destruction, except for the Dunmer, who go live on (one of) the moon(s). At least, I think that's what happens.

[Orange Wizard]

Not that it matters much in the end. Apparently the Thalmor will succeed in their ultimate plan, resulting in themselves and everyone else suffering some kind of metaphysical destruction, except for the Dunmer, who go live on (one of) the moon(s). At least, I think that's what happens.

Well, that's depressing.

[Putnam]

nazi elves

they ain't that
this is word of god here, Michael Kirkbride created the Thalmor, they ain't nazis

He can call them whatever he wants, they walk like Nazis, they talk like Nazis, they exterminate anyone they don't see as part of their superior lineage like Nazis.
I call em Nazis.

Yeah, except the Nazis were about eugenics and racial purity and the Thalmor's all about despising the flesh and ascending subgradients to become like their godly ancestors.

Not that it matters much in the end. Apparently the Thalmor will succeed in their ultimate plan, resulting in themselves and everyone else suffering some kind of metaphysical destruction, except for the Dunmer, who go live on (one of) the moon(s). At least, I think that's what happens.

Well, that's depressing.

Nah, that's the Numidium stomping shit, and it's definitely not going to happen in the games, since the entire point of the Loveletter from the 5th Era is to prevent Landfall and C0DA in general from happening in the past.

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

Not that it matters much in the end. Apparently the Thalmor will succeed in their ultimate plan, resulting in themselves and everyone else suffering some kind of metaphysical destruction, except for the Dunmer, who go live on (one of) the moon(s). At least, I think that's what happens.

Don't be so hasty.  The Adamantine tower remains active as long as Talos worship is still going on...we need the Stormcloaks to win or Talos worship to continue in Hammerfell/within the underground/etc, not do something stupid, and the Adamantine tower to be protected.

If the events of Skyrim deactivated the snow tower, then Green-Sap is the only other one.  That could be one of two things.  The walking city in Valenwood (if its that one, its deactivated), or the Hist.  Based on what has been resulting from the previous ones of having a tower being deactivated within the game somewhere (I: (Maybe this one was the start of the end), II: Numidium, III: Heart of Lorkan, IV: Amulet of Kings, V: Throat of the World), the setting will be for VI, Valenwood (Change in direction of having a tower be restored), or Blackmarsh (Continue the current path with the destruction of the Hist).  Yokuda's might have been transferred to Hammerfell, though (Maybe Elder Scrolls VII?).