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Author Topic: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim  (Read 1616051 times)

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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #10125 on: January 21, 2014, 12:30:02 pm »

Nah the souls in Soul Cairn are mortal black souls. Anything else is thrown back into oblivion.

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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #10126 on: January 21, 2014, 01:18:34 pm »

Nah the souls in Soul Cairn are mortal black souls. Anything else is thrown back into oblivion.

The Soul Cairn is where souls go when they are offered to the Ideal Masters. Soul Gems are simply the method used to do this; not all black soul gem'd souls go to the soul cairn.

If a soul is not given to the Ideal Masters, it goes through Mortal Death like any other mortal, going to its closest aligned AE (conceptual spirit, such as the Aedra/Daedra) or being recycled in the Dreamsleeve if it had no closest AE.

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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #10127 on: January 21, 2014, 01:19:36 pm »

Nah the souls in Soul Cairn are mortal black souls. Anything else is thrown back into oblivion.

The Soul Cairn is where souls go when they are offered to the Ideal Masters. Soul Gems are simply the method used to do this; not all black soul gem'd souls go to the soul cairn.

If a soul is not given to the Ideal Masters, it goes through Mortal Death like any other mortal, going to its closest aligned AE (conceptual spirit, such as the Aedra/Daedra) or being recycled in the Dreamsleeve if it had no closest AE.

And thus, I was morally able to use black soul gems again. And all was good.
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« Reply #10128 on: January 21, 2014, 01:29:49 pm »

That's a shame to be honest, I'd always liked to assume that my gears magic was derived from the eternal torture and slavery of the souls of those who fell to me.
In Oblivion I had a set of armour named after folks I'd murdered for the Dark Brotherhood questline.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #10129 on: January 21, 2014, 01:47:01 pm »

I don't care what the lore says. If I kill a monster and fill a Soul Gem using a Soul Trap spell, and I use the soul in the Soul Gem to enchant a ring, I'm gonna assume there's a soul in that ring that's just pounding on the inside of the gem desperate to escape. Nothing else makes remotely any sense.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #10130 on: January 21, 2014, 01:56:52 pm »

I don't care what the lore says. If I kill a monster and fill a Soul Gem using a Soul Trap spell, and I use the soul in the Soul Gem to enchant a ring, I'm gonna assume there's a soul in that ring that's just pounding on the inside of the gem desperate to escape. Nothing else makes remotely any sense.
Hence why I use children to make all my Daedric armor for my mage characters.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #10131 on: January 21, 2014, 02:14:55 pm »

Wait, mortals can get recycled after they die? Doesn't that make them sort of like Daedra except they don't remember their past?

Edit: Well that and that they would actually have to be born and grow up again.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #10132 on: January 21, 2014, 02:16:44 pm »

Wait, mortals can get recycled after they die? Doesn't that make them sort of like Daedra except they don't remember their past?

Nah, not really. The "going to aligned AE" thing is more important; those who, say, worship the Divines will tend to go to the particular Divine they went to most.

This brings up the odd implication that Mankar Camoran might have been right about the Aedra, since at least the Daedra allow you to keep your individuality. Hmm...

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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #10133 on: January 21, 2014, 02:18:36 pm »

...fuck yeah Hircine
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #10134 on: January 21, 2014, 03:18:52 pm »

Hircine's afterlife sounds the least "fuck you", but for all we know the people that wind up there actually spend all of eternity getting hunted and killed by his Daedric minions and/or select few werebeasts. The real best afterlife is making your own AE, with blackjack and skooma.
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« Reply #10135 on: January 21, 2014, 05:17:22 pm »

Blackjack and Skooma - Double the Knockout.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #10136 on: January 21, 2014, 05:47:02 pm »

Hircine's afterlife sounds the least "fuck you", but for all we know the people that wind up there actually spend all of eternity getting hunted and killed by his Daedric minions and/or select few werebeasts. The real best afterlife is making your own AE, with blackjack and skooma.

Hell that's what the Champion of Cyrodiil did anyway. Or rather inherited it.

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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #10137 on: January 21, 2014, 05:50:59 pm »

Eh, it was more Sheogorath teaching the CoC how to mantle. The CoC is a complicated one, though. His/her closest AE was probably Sheogorath from the beginning, but that's ironically because s/he was also an incarnation of a Shezzarine made by Kyne with close ties to Akatosh, which probably made him/her bonkers just as PELINAL before him/her. How do you think s/he ended up in prison, anyway?

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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #10138 on: January 21, 2014, 05:57:07 pm »

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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #10139 on: January 21, 2014, 07:15:45 pm »

Kinda contemplating maybe eventually getting Skyrim for PC. The deciding factor is: Are there any mods that add in the other varieties of khajiit mentioned in the lore.

Moonpath to Elseweyr, only in Elseweyr, but you'll get the liony ones!

I didn't like that mod too much. It's mostly a pretty dungeon crawl mashed with a house mod filled with tough enemies and a sload that acts unlike sload should.

It's terribly coded too. It's a dungeon attached to an inn, and a sload that is as you said, unlike a sload. They play him like a cartoon villain. The enemies are oddly tough (except the Imga), and the spelling, my god the spelling. Just totally broke immersion for me.
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