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[miauw62]

Destruction AND (1-handed) stabbing!
(Seriously though, it's rather hard to make a good character with just magic for the first few levels for sure, you just keep running out of juice.)

[Eotyrannus]

Destruction AND (1-handed) stabbing!
(Seriously though, it's rather hard to make a good character with just magic for the first few levels for sure, you just keep running out of juice.)

I have begun to do this. Much stabbing has ensued for my foes, so far.

[GrizzlyAdamz]

Throw in conjuration ftw. Them conjured swords do some work at higher levels.

[Xantalos]

Ah, but being level 3 and having an effective 210 mana as an Altmeri is too delicious to resist.

[umiman]

But you also die in one hit.

[GrizzlyAdamz]

Only to fire, and that can be countered with magic/alchemy/stealth archery.

[Xantalos]

But you also die in one hit.

So? No one ever hits me. Because spamming rune spells are amazing.

[LeoLeonardoIII]

I've found that in TES games you have to grind a few skills up and get some gear, mostly by stealing from people in town, before you can actually do anything. Same in Skyrim?

I haven't played it but I'm thinking of getting it.

Also I really really hate the idea of using Steam or any other DRM service. Is there a standalone version and can you do all the modding stuff to it?

[GrizzlyAdamz]

Huh, both oblivion and skyrim are leveled- it's set up so that you can always do things. This can and has, of course, be/en modded.

Of course- check amazon for a hard copy. Why u no like steam? (Must be asked that a lot)

[Eotyrannus]

From my experience, you can grab a weapon/spell and some armour (you get some free light armour, healing and fire spells ((plus any racial spells)) and weaponry right from the start, and the dungeon has some more people to fight so that you can get two-handed weaponry, robes and shields too) and go to murderise stuff.

It comes in disk form, but that might need Steam too, I got the PS3 and expansions before I figured out computer was better.

[WillowLuman]

I have a hard copy. It still wants Steam.

I've never had to steal in any TES game. Well, except at the start of Morrowind. But everyone does that! Anyway, it's entirely possible to get killed before you reach the first sizable town, the nearest place from the start is just an itty bitty village. Fights will be hard at first but loot will be plentiful, if you can dodge blows and manage the number of enemies currently trying to murder you.

[Eotyrannus]

Ow. A wild Punchcat just killed me in seconds.

[LeoLeonardoIII]

I have a hard copy. It still wants Steam.

Aw that's too bad. I didn't play Thief 3, Bioshock, and several others that I wanted to. Because I don't cotton to people having the ability to prevent me from playing my game that I paid money for.

If I had the ability to take my money back if I decided the game wasn't worth it, they wouldn't take me up on that offer; they'd refuse to sell me the game under those conditions. They wouldn't want a customer to have the ability to prevent them from getting their end of the deal, even if the customer never actually did it.

Just sell me a loaf of bread. Stop looming over me while I'm eating it. Those are my DRM feels.

[Devastator]

I've found that in TES games you have to grind a few skills up and get some gear, mostly by stealing from people in town, before you can actually do anything. Same in Skyrim?

Quite the opposite.  Although less heavily levelled than in Oblivion, no quests in Skyrim will ever ask you to do anything more complicated than 'push x to succeed.'  There are a few highish level enemies, and giants and dragons are a bit tricky, but the game is not very challenging.

[umiman]

I'd say on a scale of digging your nose to quantum differentials, vanilla Skyrim is as difficult as eating a cheesecake.