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[Xantalos]

Or wait who was the person who decides the Dragonborn?
Devs are Akatosh?

[Gamerlord]

I think 'Dragonborn' is less a thing of being chosen and more like losing a cosmic game of musical chairs where when the music stops the floor turns to lava.

[umiman]

Unknown to the Aedra and Daedra, mortals, dragons, and every single thing in the Elder Scrolls universe, there exists another pantheon that secretly governs every action and fate in the universe. It is ruled by the developers and they can shape reality as they see fit.

People think to study the lore and history of the world, but what they don't realize is that at a mere whim, every single fact they know could be erased and replaced. Every single creature in the universe would accept the overwritted rules as how it's always been.

The developers are the supreme rulers of the universe they control. If you ask why none of the other dragonborn were chosen, it's simply because the developers decided that this one would be the correct one. Similarly, if they so wished it, this so-called "Last Dragonborn" could be overwritted as the "second-last dragonborn" at any time. Especially if the multi-universe-time-bending creation known as the Online comes to fruition.

[MaximumZero]

The Online? Pfft. That's surely just a myth. I mean, no one's ever even claimed to have seen it, excepting madpeople.

[GrizzlyAdamz]

*those gifted by sheogorath.

Is it conceivable the Online could be writ off as a mad fantasy concocted by whitestrake-turned-sheogorath?

That's going to be a favorite bit of semi-obscure lore from now on- I think the current mad god is going to be sticking around awhile.

[umiman]

I have a bit of a nasty habit where every time I want to play Skyrim, I uninstall and reinstall the entire game as well as all the mods from scratch. I always end up grabbing a new set of mods every time so it feels quite fresh. Not to mention a lot of the old ones would have been changed or updated.

Anyway, this time I grabbed another assortment of combat and AI mods.

I started as a Redguard out in the middle of the Reach. I started trekking around until I found a tree. I stood under the tree to admire the amazing nighttime skybox with the unbelievable clouds when I heard some bones rattling.

So I swung around and sure enough, a skeleton ambushed me. Was just a normal, crappy skeleton, so I laughed as I bashed it to pieces. When suddenly I was hit in the back. What the hell? Another skeleton! Ambushed me again!

I broke that one down.

I stood there wondering what I was near to that would cause skeletons to spawn when *scwhing*. Arrow flew right past me. Holy crap! An actual ambush! I'm being ambushed in Skyrim what the hell!? When could the AI do this?! As I was searching for where the hidden sniper was... to my absolute horror... the previous two skeletons were reforming themselves. Apparently now skeletons can't die.

And that's the story of how, for the first time ever, I died at level 1 in Skyrim.

[PanH]

Ok, I want that mod. Though, did you discovered how to kill them for good (silver or magic maybe ?) ?

[inEQUALITY]

Every time I read through this thread and mods come up, a little part of me dies in knowing that until I somehow manage to get a much better PC, I'll have to make due with the 360 version and DLC. Not that it's bad by any stretch of the imagination, but it could just be so much more.

[umiman]

Ok, I want that mod. Though, did you discovered how to kill them for good (silver or magic maybe ?) ?

I have no idea. I didn't check as I wanted to figure out how to do it myself.

I think this is the mod: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/24913/?

It might not be the only one though, as I'm using an assortment of AI and monster mods.

Here's my current mod list:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
Dawnguard.esm
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
HearthFires.esm
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
JSwords.esm
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
SPIKE.esm
LIAT - Sounds.esp
StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp
StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp
StaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp
Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
Birdsofskyrim.esp
Bring Out Your Dead.esp
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
Immersive Battles.esp
Immersive Brigands.esp
Immersive Dawnguard.esp
Immersive Dragonborn.esp
Immersive Factions.esp
Immersive Mercenaries.esp
Immersive Patrols.esp
Immersive Travelers.esp
Immersive Werewolves.esp
LIAT - NPCs.esp
MVABasic.esp
People Have Torches.esp
Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and Booze.esp
Real Clouds.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
WetandCold.esp
Footprints.esp
SkyUI.esp
iHUD.esp
Cloaks.esp
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
1nivWICCloaks.esp
1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp
hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp
Dr_Bandolier.esp
DeadlyDragons.esp
Inconsequential NPCs.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
When Vampires Attack.esp
Book Covers Skyrim.esp
Book Covers Dawnguard.esp
Book Covers Hearthfire.esp
Book Covers Dragonborn.esp
Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ammo.esp
Headbomb's Better Sorting - Books.esp
Headbomb's Better Sorting - Food (Normal Weight).esp
Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ingredients.esp
Headbomb's Better Sorting - Miscellaneous.esp
Headbomb's Better Sorting - Potions (Normal Weight).esp
Headbomb's Better Sorting - Soul Gems (PseudoVanilla).esp
Headbomb's Better Sorting - Spells.esp
Bounty Gold.esp
Headtracking.esp
Legendary Artifacts.esp
SFO - Dragonborn.esp
SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
Unique Region Names - Dragonborn.esp
Populated Cities 2.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-5.esp
Unique Region Names - Dragonborn COT Patch.esp
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
imaddonunlimitedservants.esp
Duel - Combat Realism.esp
ACE Realistic Fighting.esp
The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp
ACE Speech.esp
ACE Archery.esp
ACE Armor.esp
ACE Enchanting.esp
ACE Magic.esp
ACE Melee.esp
ACE Smithing.esp
ACE Synergy.esp
3DNPC.esp
UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp
UFO - Dragonborn AddOn.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
DeadlyMutilation.esp
ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp
No More Glowing Edges.esp
Purewaters.esp
PurewatersDG.esp
PurewatersDB.esp

[GrizzlyAdamz]

tk recoil

Must-have, along with hitstop. I also like improved combat sounds.
Also, from the front page of duel, (umiman's already got that though).

[Bauglir]

Ehh, the tk-hitstop mod always felt wrong to me. Kind of laggy. It didn't so much create the effect of hits having weight, so much as my computer temporarily locking up. Recoil looks similar, even in the video.

[Yolan]

Every time I read through this thread and mods come up, a little part of me dies in knowing that until I somehow manage to get a much better PC, I'll have to make due with the 360 version and DLC. Not that it's bad by any stretch of the imagination, but it could just be so much more.

I'm playing skyrim on a cheap laptop I bought in 2011. Onboard graphics card. ;-)

Just use the super low graphics mod. It actually makes the game kind of pretty in a twinsen oddysey kind of way.

[GrizzlyAdamz]

Ehh, the tk-hitstop mod always felt wrong to me. Kind of laggy. It didn't so much create the effect of hits having weight, so much as my computer temporarily locking up. Recoil looks similar, even in the video.

Huh, did you try adjusting it? The animation stop is rather high by default, and it can even be disabled (by itself) if the minimum setting still seems off. (cough bottom right corner at 0:57 cough) The config is pretty robust.
Figured pausing the PC's animation makes sense- imitates the slow-down from making contact, instead of sharing the same animation with swinging through thin air.

[Bauglir]

I might give it a try later. I just got my current load order working, so far with no problem, and the most basic of sanity checks seem reasonable (the biggest question so far is leveled lists, though, so the only thing I've been able to confirm is that Orc strongholds do, indeed, sell Orcish equipment at level 1, which is correct behavior since it suggests that Orcs have preferential access to it, and loot is no longer tied to my level). But anyway, I don't want to mess with it too much, so even though I'm pretty sure that mod won't fuck anything up, Imma leave it be.

Spoiler: The List, if You're Interested (click to show/hide)

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
Dawnguard.esm
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
SPIKE.esm
Better Dynamic Snow.esp
Thundering Shouts.esp
better_torches_brighter_torchlight.esp
StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp
StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp
Auto Unequip Helmet.esp
BellyachesNewDragonSpecies.esp
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
Chesko_WearableLantern_Guards.esp
Dead Body Collision.esp
Dual Sheath Redux.esp
Immersive Brigands.esp
Immersive Mercenaries.esp
Immersive Travelers.esp
moredragonloot.esp
Realistic Wildlife Loot - Reduced.esp
Realistic Wildlife Loot - Reduced - Dragonborn patch.esp
ScenicCarriages.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
Character Creation Overhaul.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
Player Size Adjuster.esp
SkyUI.esp
iHUD.esp
Crossbows_Basic_Collection_EN_LL.esp
Skyrim Scaling Stopper.esp
hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
PIVariety.esp
throwingweapons.esp
throwing_weapons_leveledlists_plugin.esp
Lock Overhaul.esp
DeadlyDragons.esp
SkyRe_Main.esp
SkyRe_Main_Fix.esp
SkyRe_Combat.esp
SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp
SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp
SkyRe_EnemyScaling_Fix.esp
Unique Uniques.esp
OBIS.esp
OBISDB.esp
Morrowloot_nwah.esp
BetterQuestObjectives.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-Dawnguard.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-SkyRePatch.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp
CCO - Permanent Birthsigns.esp
Civil War Overhaul.esp
Grass_On_Steroids_SFO.esp
Less Falling Damage.esp
NoRandomDragons.esp
OpenFaceGuardHelmets.esp
RealisticHumanoidMovementSpeed.esp
SkyFalls Plus SkyMills - All DLC.esp
SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp
Waterbreathing Breathless Emerge.esp
Unique Region Names - Dragonborn.esp
Populated Cities Towns Villages.esp
SoS - The Dungeons.esp
SoS - The Wilds.esp
SoS - Civilization.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hardcore.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Cold.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-4.esp
Unique Region Names - Dragonborn COT Patch.esp
SoS - The Dungeons-PatchCoTHardcore.esp
SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoTSounds.esp
SoS - Civilization -PatchCoTSounds.esp
NPCsUseAmmoAllBows.esp
Random Vampire Attacks in Towns Disabled.esp
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
CarryweightExtended.esp
Soulfire.esp
Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp
DragonCombatOverhaulDragonborn.esp
The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp
CCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.esp
Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp
dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp
AzarHairPonyTail 03 - Havok.esp
NonEssentialChildren.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-NECPatch.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp
CCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp
SkyRe_Races.esp
NoClearedCellRespawn.esp
WATER.esp
WATER DG.esp
WATER DB Waves.esp
Unique Region Names.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
ASIS-Dependency.esp
ASIS.esp
Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp
ReProccer.esp
SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp

Pretty sure there's nothing there what needs redacting.

[umiman]

Oooh... I should get thundering shouts too.