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Author Topic: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim  (Read 1615192 times)

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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #8760 on: April 17, 2013, 01:31:19 am »

My problem with the aesthetics you guys are discussing is they're basically devoid of personality.  I'm ok with some characters in fantasy going with the juggernaut aesthetic, but the genre has suffered such a drive towards escalation of everything over the last couple decades that most works of the genre try to cram that aesthetic onto absolutely everything.  Every game or movie iteration seems to feel the need to make everything a little more fantastic.  It gets to a point where the whole genre ends up completely one-dimensional.

I saw this painting at Gencon a couple years ago and had a chat with the artist about this very subject.  It illustrates the point perfectly.  On the actual painting, that text at the bottom read "The Evolution of the Troll".  From left to right, it shows how the design of this creature has changed from 1st to 4th edition D&D.

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Now this wouldn't be so bad, maybe, if it were an isolated case, but every single humanoid has undergone this evolution in pretty much every work of mainstream fantasy.  They all end up looking the same, except for skin color and a distinguishing feature or two.  In this case, the nose.  On the far left, the entire visual package of that creature has distinguishing personality.  On the far right, the only distinguishing feature is the nose.  It's stupid.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #8761 on: April 17, 2013, 01:37:26 am »

Yer image seems broke.
Edit: No, not really, it just didn't work for me the first time.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #8762 on: April 17, 2013, 02:23:55 am »

I've no idea if it's in WoW, as I do t really pay attention to it, but I kinda blame Warhammer 40k for this. The stupidly huge shoulders, they is. Only difference is 40k deliberately does them stupid huge.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #8763 on: April 17, 2013, 02:58:11 am »

I can't help but feel that the root of the problem is Japan, the greatest threat to Western civilization gaming ours has ever known.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #8764 on: April 17, 2013, 03:29:08 am »

I've no idea if it's in WoW, as I do t really pay attention to it, but I kinda blame Warhammer 40k for this. The stupidly huge shoulders, they is. Only difference is 40k deliberately does them stupid huge.

Isn't Warhammer supposed to be a sort of satire, though, that operates by taking every sci-fi/fantasy trope and dialing it up to infinite?
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #8765 on: April 17, 2013, 03:38:37 am »

I've no idea if it's in WoW, as I do t really pay attention to it, but I kinda blame Warhammer 40k for this. The stupidly huge shoulders, they is. Only difference is 40k deliberately does them stupid huge.

Isn't Warhammer supposed to be a sort of satire, though, that operates by taking every sci-fi/fantasy trope and dialing it up to infinite?
Hence 'A PRIMARCHS FOUGHT ANOTHER PRIMARCH AND THE PLANET CRACKED'.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #8766 on: April 17, 2013, 03:43:55 am »

I've no idea if it's in WoW, as I do t really pay attention to it, but I kinda blame Warhammer 40k for this. The stupidly huge shoulders, they is. Only difference is 40k deliberately does them stupid huge.
Isn't Warhammer supposed to be a sort of satire, though, that operates by taking every sci-fi/fantasy trope and dialing it up to infinite?
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #8767 on: April 17, 2013, 09:13:08 am »

I've no idea if it's in WoW, as I do t really pay attention to it, but I kinda blame Warhammer 40k for this. The stupidly huge shoulders, they is. Only difference is 40k deliberately does them stupid huge.

I blame Rob Liefeld.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #8768 on: April 17, 2013, 02:39:06 pm »

Crap, I accidentally image-googled Lusty Argonian Maid with safesearch turned off...
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #8769 on: April 17, 2013, 04:07:54 pm »

Crap, I accidentally image-googled Lusty Argonian Maid with safesearch turned off...
why were you searching it in the first place?

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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #8770 on: April 17, 2013, 04:31:05 pm »

Dude, some questions are best left unasked.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #8771 on: April 17, 2013, 06:18:51 pm »

Crap, I accidentally image-googled Lusty Argonian Maid with safesearch turned off...



I'm going to to take a wild guess here and say the offending result was on either DA or FA.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #8772 on: April 17, 2013, 07:08:04 pm »

I'd ask what DA of FA means, but I think I'm better off not knowing.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #8773 on: April 17, 2013, 07:14:51 pm »

They're both websites liable to have NSFW pictures on the topic.

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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #8774 on: April 17, 2013, 08:29:34 pm »

Dude, some questions are best left unasked.
No i really do want to know, even if the world is rendered asunder from my curiosity.
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