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[WillowLuman]

So, how is heartfire? I saw the download was up.

No one knows. It's not available until the 9th, and then only for Xbox players. Everyone else will have to wait for October.

[Ultimuh]

So, how is heartfire? I saw the download was up.

No one knows. It's not available until the 9th, and then only for Xbox players. Everyone else will have to wait for October.

*sigh* Oh Bethesda, why? Why did you make console versions?

edit: Not that I disaprove for anyone who has the console version of the game, it's just that I have it for PC.

[Sordid]

*sigh* Oh Bethesda, why? Why did you make console versions?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHhzi8PvDYw

[Wrex]

Well, Downloaded Hearthfire, bought the Falkreath house. Unfortunatly, there is a bandit lair, and a necromancer altar within spitting distance, and it was apparently built on top of a random encounter zone. For refrence, it sits on the plain behind pinewatch.

[Ultimuh]

Well, Downloaded Hearthfire, bought the Falkreath house. Unfortunatly, there is a bandit lair, and a necromancer altar within spitting distance, and it was apparently built on top of a random encounter zone. For refrence, it sits on the plain behind pinewatch.

Modding can fix that, but since you are on X-Box, I guess you could send a formal but polite complaint to Bethesda.

[Alkhemia]

Well, Downloaded Hearthfire, bought the Falkreath house. Unfortunatly, there is a bandit lair, and a necromancer altar within spitting distance, and it was apparently built on top of a random encounter zone. For refrence, it sits on the plain behind pinewatch.

Modding can fix that, but since you are on X-Box, I guess you could sen a formal but polite complaint to Bethesda.

I think you can mod the xbox a little bit not sure how though.

[Euld]

*sigh* Oh Bethesda, why? Why did you make console versions?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHhzi8PvDYw

We've got to have...

[Alkhemia]

I hope the next DLC got something to do with Jyggalag I like to know what he was up to after Shivering Isles.

[Sensei]

I dunno, since Oblivion they seem pretty bent on not having any characters be relevant to more than one game outside of books.

[Putnam]

I hope the next DLC got something to do with Jyggalag I like to know what he was up to after Shivering Isles.

Based on some loading screen messages, he turned into Peryite.

[Wrex]

I hope the next DLC got something to do with Jyggalag I like to know what he was up to after Shivering Isles.

Based on some loading screen messages, he turned into Peryite.

Or, mayhap, he always was. Order is a powerful force, and if that force/aspect would have been ripped from him, it would weaken him immensely. When if Jyggalag was free to rejoin himself with Peyrite, you could very well end up with Peyrite being powerful enough to replace Akatosh, which is apparently supposed to happen next kalpa if the Kirkbride writings are to be believed.

[WillowLuman]

Loading screen lore should be taken with a pinch of salt. I know that Hircine doesn't call upon the Wild Hunt, that's some eldricht ritual that the bosmer do.

If anyone has incredible depth of lore knowledge, I've some burning questions:

What's with all this business about CHIM and Peryite slated to become Akatosh soon? I don't know where they pull this stuff from, but from what i've read in all the 4 games I've played, there's no mention of anything about mantling or whatever. CHIM just comes from one of the Tribunal temple holy books, doesn't seem very credible to me. Yet, when I ask lore questions on certain other places, it is touted as gospel that CHIM explains everything.

[Wrex]

Loading screen lore should be taken with a pinch of salt. I know that Hircine doesn't call upon the Wild Hunt, that's some eldricht ritual that the bosmer do.

If anyone has incredible depth of lore knowledge, I've some burning questions:

What's with all this business about CHIM and Peryite slated to become Akatosh soon? I don't know where they pull this stuff from, but from what i've read in all the 4 games I've played, there's no mention of anything about mantling or whatever. CHIM just comes from one of the Tribunal temple holy books, doesn't seem very credible to me. Yet, when I ask lore questions on certain other places, it is touted as gospel that CHIM explains everything.

Michael Kirkbride wrote a lot of stuff that basically says that the ES universe is the dream of a sleeping Godhead, and that Anu and Padomay are the forces of the dream. CHIM is the state of knowing that you do not exist, but continuing to exist regardless. Sithis, or Padomay, is the force of change, and Anu is the force of stasis. Beliefs themselves have power, however. Worshipping Sithis, a nonentity, would create a "Sithis" entity, drawing off power form Lorkhan, who is at this point little more than a fount of divine energy, even if his heart has been unmade.

[WillowLuman]

I remember that stuff about Godheads and CHIM from the Lessons of Vivec. I knew about Anu and Padomay and the origin already, but never heard anything about Sithis being Padomay. Always thought it was supposed to be representative of the Void.

Not having read the 2 ES novels, was that stuff you mentioned expounded upon by Sul by any chance? Or was it given as direct exposition?

[Putnam]

I'm pretty sure nothing Kirkbride writes is direct