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[kcwong]

I found out that you can have your cake and eat it too when Escaping the Silvermine in Markarth.

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After he gives you the armour, keep him in conversational mode until all other Foresworn leave the area, leave conversation then shoot him in the back with your bow that you conveniently get back. He will exit then enter again straight away alone, leaving you to kill him as you please. Leave after killing him and you get that Nice Ring that you would have gotten via killing him earlier in the mines. At least this time though you have the Armour as well... ^_^  Though the Foresworn will turn around and attack you and the guards. If your not over leveled like I was, you could probably save the Silver-Blood, or perhaps its an auto death like his wife earlier.

That's not what happened to me...

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I saw the group leaving the mines after I got all my items back. I equipped my items, and found all others left, leaving just me and him. I attacked and killed him.

Then I exited the mines. The forsworns were fighting the guards, but neither group was hostile to me. I started attacking the forsworns. They appeared as red markers on compass, but they didn't attack me, and instead yelled "I'm on your side!" a lot. After I slaughtered all the forsworns, the guards came and talked to me, thanking me and declaring me a free man. The general public however still believe the forsworn king has escaped.

[Neyvn]

I was on my way to Bleak Falls Barrow (FINALLY) and was level 20. I stumbled across a Frost Troll blocking my way, Being WAY WAY WAY underpowered due to leveling non combat skills, he was to be Yo'yoed as I dashed up and down the mountain rocks into and out of his Pathing where he couldn't reach me, after tickling him down with a few hundred arrows I pull out some magics which have never been used, showering him with flames. Finally the beast falls and I find an item on him that looks weird, its graphic didn't line straight and it had a damage amount as a sword. I equip it and I discovered I had found a Mini Artifact weapon added by this mod.
Needless to say that this is going up on my wall when I get a home (currently Twohanding.)

[Flying Dice]

Heh, I remember sequence-breaking by way of rockclimbing that troll; I ended up going down the path after talking to the Greybeards and stealth-killed it.





Also, killing that evil matron of the orphanage was one of the most gratifying experiences I've ever had in a game. Even more so after I saw the closet/latrine/solitary confinement cell. I'm keeping a savefile from the second after I entered the building, just for old time's sake.

[ductape]

I was on my way to Bleak Falls Barrow (FINALLY) and was level 20. I stumbled across a Frost Troll blocking my way, Being WAY WAY WAY underpowered due to leveling non combat skills, he was to be Yo'yoed as I dashed up and down the mountain rocks into and out of his Pathing where he couldn't reach me, after tickling him down with a few hundred arrows I pull out some magics which have never been used, showering him with flames. Finally the beast falls and I find an item on him that looks weird, its graphic didn't line straight and it had a damage amount as a sword. I equip it and I discovered I had found a Mini Artifact weapon added by this mod.
Needless to say that this is going up on my wall when I get a home (currently Twohanding.)

How can that mod do all that it claims? I thought we needed the kit to have anything good.

[micelus]

Dunno, but it must be difficult.

[Biag]

Heh, I remember sequence-breaking by way of rockclimbing that troll; I ended up going down the path after talking to the Greybeards and stealth-killed it.

I was having a lot of trouble with the thing, so I ended up just running up the mountain and hoping it would de-aggro. It didn't. "Oh shit," I thought. "Well, it probably can't go through doors, at least." Wrong again.

Cue ten monks sprinting in and shouting fireballs at a yeti, then walking away from its charred corpse like nothing happened. WELCOME TO SKYRIM

[Flying Dice]

The first law of Bethsoft combat:

"When you run into something you can't kill, jump up onto a rock and shoot at it until it dies. Repeat as necessary."

[Neyvn]

How can that mod do all that it claims? I thought we needed the kit to have anything good.

I don't know how he has done it, but I can confirm at least 60% of the promised actions are there. Haven't seen the other 40% yet of what is Prepatched to the current copy but he has done it. Basicly its a lot of his stuff and incorperating (with permission, Minecraft Modders need to follow Skyrim Modder's methods) other mods to make it even grander in one simple installtion. You can break down a ton of things to basic materials, make things that you shouldn't normally be able to make, make different foodstuffs and different alchemy methods of collection (produce it other then collect it). There is these Mini Artifacts that have unique images, this Sword I have is like a Golden or Bronze hilt with quilion with an ICE BLADE... I'll get screenshot... One moment...

EDIT::
Here is the Steam Screenshots...
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198024493161/screenshots/

[Flying Dice]

Holy crap that is awesome.


Cue more 360-tears.

[612DwarfAvenue]

WELCOME TO FUCKING SKYRIM, HOPE YOU FUS RO DAH!

Fix'd.

[penguinofhonor]

Doing a Companion quest. The Silver Hand are really really tough. Like, they kill me in 3 hits tough. It takes me 6 to kill them. This is bad.

[zehive]

Doing a Companion quest. The Silver Hand are really really tough. Like, they kill me in 3 hits tough. It takes me 6 to kill them. This is bad.

I found that the Silver Hand were the only enemy that really challenged me consistently. Takes a bit of a real fight to kill them, rather than the same old run of the mill run up, shieldbash them to death for lulz or just powerhit with my daedra sword.

[Astral]

I was on my way to Bleak Falls Barrow (FINALLY) and was level 20. I stumbled across a Frost Troll blocking my way, Being WAY WAY WAY underpowered due to leveling non combat skills, he was to be Yo'yoed as I dashed up and down the mountain rocks into and out of his Pathing where he couldn't reach me, after tickling him down with a few hundred arrows I pull out some magics which have never been used, showering him with flames. Finally the beast falls and I find an item on him that looks weird, its graphic didn't line straight and it had a damage amount as a sword. I equip it and I discovered I had found a Mini Artifact weapon added by this mod.
Needless to say that this is going up on my wall when I get a home (currently Twohanding.)

How can that mod do all that it claims? I thought we needed the kit to have anything good.

From what I've heard/seen, half of it is editing hex values and other raw data directly. Not easy, but doable if you know what to look for.

[Tarran]

Doing a Companion quest. The Silver Hand are really really tough. Like, they kill me in 3 hits tough. It takes me 6 to kill them. This is bad.

I found that the Silver Hand were the only enemy that really challenged me consistently. Takes a bit of a real fight to kill them, rather than the same old run of the mill run up, shieldbash them to death for lulz or just powerhit with my daedra sword.

The Silver hand, for me, are either annoyingly easy or absurdly hard. I remember cutting through the SH, only to pop into a room with several Daedric-arrow shooting archers that HURT THE HELL OUT OF ME, and one guy with a two-handed sword who was so high level that he instakilled me with a special finishing attack, and his standard attacks cut large amounts of health out of me.

It was painful, to say the least.

[The Merchant Of Menace]

I just use the beast form's magic "1HK anyone in the world" attack.