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[Wravburn]

You have any idea how cold the water in Skyrim is? You would be mad to go for a swim!


On a more serious note, if they had put the work in it, they would have to reallocate the work from feature X to this. If they did, we would have this discussion about feature X. Such is the life of game development.

[nenjin]

You would be mad to go for a swim!

That's actually how babies in Skyrim are baptized. If they can't survive a three minute dip into a nearby mountain stream, they're mountain goat food.

[Microcline]

Time, money and other resources were probably better spent elsewhere, and we don't know how many resources they had to begin with.

Given the number of things which clearly didn't receive sufficient resources

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

main quest writing
faction writing
lore writing
worldbuilding
level design
enemy diversity
functional UI
effects (Skyrim's effects were accomplished via abusing a can of strawberry jam and setting the HDR pupil dilation slider somewhere between "annoying" and "unplayable")
magic
spears and crossbows
doing anything interesting with the much touted dragons
debugging
...

I'm starting to wonder if Bethesda made semi-acceptable NPC models and diagonal running animation before Todd Howard called it a day, earmarked half of the money for celebrity voice actors who voice three lines and blew the rest of his time and money on hookers and moon sugar.

[Teneb]

Time, money and other resources were probably better spent elsewhere, and we don't know how many resources they had to begin with.

Given the number of things which clearly didn't receive sufficient resources

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

main quest writing
faction writing
lore writing
worldbuilding
level design
enemy diversity
functional UI
effects (Skyrim's effects were accomplished via abusing a can of strawberry jam and setting the HDR pupil dilation slider somewhere between "annoying" and "unplayable")
magic
spears and crossbows
doing anything interesting with the much touted dragons
debugging
...

I'm starting to wonder if Bethesda made semi-acceptable NPC models and diagonal running animation before Todd Howard called it a day, earmarked half of the money for celebrity voice actors who voice three lines and blew the rest of his time and money on hookers and moon sugar.

You forgot the skooma.

[Neonivek]

There's animations, combat/magic/stealth to balance, aquatic enemies to design, dungeons to design, ... Time, money and other resources were probably better spent elsewhere, and we don't know how many resources they had to begin with.

In other words, work? Sorry, but that's just so apologetic I couldn't let it pass. Somehow I don't think it would have taken a miracle to put more fish in Skyrim and let us hit the swing weapon button underwater, forget fancy underwatered theme'd dungeons. (Of which Oblivion had at least two, not so fancy ones.)

It was just considered expendable. Which seems like a dumb decision, considering I can't open a cabinet or a barrel without finding slaughter fish scales, slaughter fish eggs, grilled slaughterfish, fried slaughterfish, slaughterfish tempura or slaughterfish ala mode.

Given that Skyrim is obviously rushed I think that is less apologetic and more "That is the reason"

[nenjin]

Given that Skyrim is obviously rushed I think that is less apologetic and more "That is the reason"

I don't want to be a dick and just claim Skyrim was "rushed" because that seems disingenuous to everything that's in the game.

I think it's more of a case of:



Original not my own.

[Gamerlord]

One thing I wished they included would be whales. Basically the waters equivalent of the mammoth. Whenever I saw mammoths, I thought: Yes. This looks real. The Horkers are ridiculously easy to kill (just lure a Sabre Cat to them) and I was really looking forward to some big-ass ocean creature that would be a challenge to kill.

P.S. Does anyone know how to zoom in and out on the console when your rotating the camera around yourself?

[Bdthemag]

Dear lord, if there were any large aquatic animals in this game I'd never go into water ever. One of my biggest fears is getting attacked by a large underwater creature.

[Trapezohedron]

One thing I wished they included would be whales. Basically the waters equivalent of the mammoth. Whenever I saw mammoths, I thought: Yes. This looks real. The Horkers are ridiculously easy to kill (just lure a Sabre Cat to them) and I was really looking forward to some big-ass ocean creature that would be a challenge to kill.

P.S. Does anyone know how to zoom in and out on the console when your rotating the camera around yourself?

Try animcam, or switching to third-person and typing tfc.

[PTTG??]

Man the companions quest is linear.

[Cthulhu]

I don't have a problem with the linearity of it, most of the quest lines are pretty linear.

I don't have a problem with linearity at all if it's quality.

The problem is the quality is bad.  The quest line sucks.  It's rushed, there was no thought put into it.  Characters like Skjor and to a lesser extent Kodlak only exist to get killed and provide motivation but the motivation sucks because, since they only exist to die, you don't care about them.

[Sensei]

Dear lord, if there were any large aquatic animals in this game I'd never go into water ever. One of my biggest fears is getting attacked by a large underwater creature.

I remember you can scale models in the construction set, or at least the old ones. Prepare for the fury of 10x-scaled slaughterfish!

[Bdthemag]

Dear lord, if there were any large aquatic animals in this game I'd never go into water ever. One of my biggest fears is getting attacked by a large underwater creature.

I remember you can scale models in the construction set, or at least the old ones. Prepare for the fury of 10x-scaled slaughterfish!

Holy shit, it would be like swimming in Morrowind only 100 times more worse.

[Cthulhu]

I wonder if you'll be able to make new finishing moves in the construction set.

If you can that's all I'll ever do.  New stealth kill moves, hacking people up with an axe, tickle attacks for the hell of it.  The porn mods will be incredibly sophisticated.

Oh, and one where the dragon pins you to the ground with its claw, bites down on your neck, and pulls your head off.

[Sensei]

Well, if you can make animations...

On another note, I made a Morrowind mod with giant slaughterfish once. The idea was that rivers would obstruct movement and force the player to use bridges. I understand how hard it can be to make areas for a game where the player may or may not be able to fly.