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[Trapezohedron]

Holy shit, heh. Greatest headshot EVER.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xE4uzGaQDQg

"<SERMONSERMONSERMO->"

*flik*

[forsaken1111]

sorry, i know, i am repeating myself but...

which drives me insane is that in ALL the houses ive seen so far(via own expirience and internet) have no frakking conteiners near the alchemy/enchanting stations.

The very first house available to you in whiterun has an alchemy pouch SITTING ON the alchemy station. It is a container. Use it.

When the kit comes out you can place them on the other houses.

[Cthulhu]

As much as I like the new random quest system, I feel like Bethesda is using it as an excuse to half-ass the guilds' storyline quests.  I'm partway through the Thieves Guild and it's okay but I remember Oblivion's Thieves Guild questline having as much to do as some whole games, and the last big heist was awesome.  The Companions quest line was bad, though.  You join their ranks and everybody looks down on you because you're the new blood, three days later you're running the place.

Also, Idolaf in Whiterun is funny.  He came up to me all tough guy saying "Graymane or Battleborn?  If you're Graymane you best keep walkin' chump" or some shit, and since I was on the Imperial Side I said battleborn.  Next thing I know he's telling me I've been a good friend and it means a lot to him.

Also some dark elf shopkeeper I've never talked to gave me a pair of boots as a token of our friendship.  k

[irbis]

sorry, i know, i am repeating myself but...

which drives me insane is that in ALL the houses ive seen so far(via own expirience and internet) have no frakking conteiners near the alchemy/enchanting stations.

The very first house available to you in whiterun has an alchemy pouch SITTING ON the alchemy station. It is a container. Use it.

When the kit comes out you can place them on the other houses.

i double checked the house in riften and no still no satchel

and Whiterun house blows. its clusterfest inside and it doesnt even have enchanting table. its by far the worst house. both visualy and practicly
i know what satchel is lol

[scriver]

sorry, i know, i am repeating myself but...

which drives me insane is that in ALL the houses ive seen so far(via own expirience and internet) have no frakking conteiners near the alchemy/enchanting stations.

The very first house available to you in whiterun has an alchemy pouch SITTING ON the alchemy station. It is a container. Use it.

And there's a chest on the bookcase, what, three steps away?

[irbis]

sorry, i know, i am repeating myself but...

which drives me insane is that in ALL the houses ive seen so far(via own expirience and internet) have no frakking conteiners near the alchemy/enchanting stations.

The very first house available to you in whiterun has an alchemy pouch SITTING ON the alchemy station. It is a container. Use it.

And there's a chest on the bookcase, what, three steps away?

sure. now tell where do you go from there when you want enchant stuff

[Neonivek]

sorry, i know, i am repeating myself but...

which drives me insane is that in ALL the houses ive seen so far(via own expirience and internet) have no frakking conteiners near the alchemy/enchanting stations.

The very first house available to you in whiterun has an alchemy pouch SITTING ON the alchemy station. It is a container. Use it.

And there's a chest on the bookcase, what, three steps away?

sure. now tell where do you go from there when you want enchant stuff

The Castle

[irbis]

sorry, i know, i am repeating myself but...

which drives me insane is that in ALL the houses ive seen so far(via own expirience and internet) have no frakking conteiners near the alchemy/enchanting stations.

The very first house available to you in whiterun has an alchemy pouch SITTING ON the alchemy station. It is a container. Use it.

And there's a chest on the bookcase, what, three steps away?

sure. now tell where do you go from there when you want enchant stuff

The Castle

been doing that for last 3 days. and its actualy fine... as long as someone else is doing the running back and forth.
actualy shame there isnt a quest that the player can get the court wizard job. most of the times their room are damn well equiped.

[The Merchant Of Menace]

I don't see how you'd be enchanting enough to need an enchantment table in your own house really.

[Neonivek]

I don't see how you'd be enchanting enough to need an enchantment table in your own house really.

If your training Enchantment you can often have tons of soul gems and not enough items to use them on.

MIND you... It is more that you don't really need storage for enchanting.

[The Merchant Of Menace]

Eh, I just stick with what I have.

I'm the Dragonborn, I should be out adventuring, not sitting in my house fucking around with enchantments or forging enough swords to equip ten armies.

[Azkanan]

Just going to leave this completely unrelated thing here.

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[Neonivek]

Enchanting doesn't really pay off until MUCH later anyhow since the items you find will often be better when what you can make

Heck I can't imagine Enchanting paying off until Skill 100 and all the perks. I can't even get close to matching even the most basic item enchantments.

I am doing both Crafting and Enchanting.

[LoSboccacc]

Eh, I just stick with what I have.

I'm the Dragonborn, I should be out adventuring, not sitting in my house fucking around with enchantments or forging enough swords to equip ten armies.

that's just because skill leveling is quite unbalanced, so making an assassin skilled in poisons take a lot of useless potion grinding as normal questing around will increase just stealth, archery and one handed skills.

there should be a non gamey, non grinding way to be whatever one want's to be, granting the fun of crafting without the mundane part of working as apprentice for hours.

suggestion welcome 
 

[The Merchant Of Menace]

Yeah, I just use the items I can make to keep me slightly ahead of the curve until I can upgrade, I train smithing by improving the items I loot before selling them, and enchantment by removing any enchant effects I like. Alchemy is just used to top up my potion stock when it runs low.