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ThtblovesDF

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Re: Discussion on TES V: Skyrim - IT'S ACTUALLY GOOD!
« Reply #1140 on: November 15, 2011, 06:48:26 am »

Meh gonna restart and play another char till mods fix bullshit scaling...

Why not have a set of different scales? One social, one combat?
"This guy is a high diplomacy guy - lets make the wolfs twice there normal size"
"This guy mined iron and smelted it! Give normal bandits ebony greatswords, worth 1300 gold - and 8 gold worth of other loot"

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« Reply #1141 on: November 15, 2011, 06:49:18 am »

you guys are all loosers.

Argonians all the way.
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« Reply #1142 on: November 15, 2011, 07:06:41 am »

Meh gonna restart and play another char till mods fix bullshit scaling...

Why not have a set of different scales? One social, one combat?
"This guy is a high diplomacy guy - lets make the wolfs twice there normal size"
"This guy mined iron and smelted it! Give normal bandits ebony greatswords, worth 1300 gold - and 8 gold worth of other loot"

I think we're playing a different game. The mobs themselves don't get stronger, it's only that the usual mobs get better ones to support them.
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« Reply #1143 on: November 15, 2011, 07:08:10 am »

Meh gonna restart and play another char till mods fix bullshit scaling...

Why not have a set of different scales? One social, one combat?
"This guy is a high diplomacy guy - lets make the wolfs twice there normal size"
"This guy mined iron and smelted it! Give normal bandits ebony greatswords, worth 1300 gold - and 8 gold worth of other loot"

Im sorry what? What scaling? Im level 28 and I havent noticed any scaling, I kill bandits in 2-4 hits, their attackes do friggin nothing, and my armor is only exquisite steel plate, also why the hell is your theif wearing ebony armor, which is heavy armour?
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« Reply #1144 on: November 15, 2011, 07:19:24 am »

you guys are all loosers.

Argonians all the way.

No way!  Friggin' DWEMER is where it's AT!

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« Reply #1145 on: November 15, 2011, 07:26:27 am »

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« Reply #1146 on: November 15, 2011, 07:29:31 am »

I have maxed out pickpocket, good sneak (70-100), good magic skills (all around 50 ish) and know how to use ze magiz swordz - I'm level 35 and my hybrid build gets 1-3 hitted by EVERYTHING on the most easy difficulty (Full ebony armor of superior quality, with some of the heavy armor perks buffing it more, around 105 armor). The bandits and other randroms I meet can and HAVE killed dragons in 1 on 1 combat and the game has become pretty much unplayable due to me not strictly following one path.

Great... I hope the enemies cap at some point or I can figure out where to adjust the "lol everything now is the devil" ratio somewhere. (Steam version)

So yeah take that as fair warning.
Restart the game completly and abandon 37 hour char because the scaling makes my thief unplayable in combat (1 hitted by default randrom creatures on easy difficulty, even thou I'm wearing full ebony armor and have 200 health) or slug onwards, hoping that the enemies eventually max there bullshit out?

Why use heavy armor on a thief ? use light armor instead, it's better for stealth. Also, you say you have 105 armor at lvl35 with a full superior ebony set ? That's where part of your problem is. I have over 200 armor with (flawless) steel plate armor, at lvl 16. If your sneak ability is high, use that to get past enemies, maybe. If your magic skills are high, use long range spells as much as possible and a ward spell in one hand in close quarters.

 But honestly, i think your character is gimped due to levelling non-combat skills too high too fast. Armor/weapon skills/perks seem really necessary if you want to perform well in combat. Maxed out Pickpocketing strikes me as a bad idea, mainly because i already get too much money from dungeoneering, so i don't see the point in stealing, except for flavour. Also as a thief, a bow and dagger should be more efficient than swords/magic, because you'll be using your high sneak to score high damage crits, hence synergy of your skills instead of going in every direction at once with skills that don't work together.
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Re: Discussion on TES V: Skyrim - IT'S ACTUALLY GOOD!
« Reply #1147 on: November 15, 2011, 07:45:47 am »

i'm usually light armour user, having all light armor helps a great deal. you easily get through all the perks bonus 200 armor and more.
i do have just 39 of armor usually because i'm also an archmage, and tend to swap for the "POWER, UNLIMITED POWER!" side of the force (SPARKS should be called Dark forces, really)
it's all a thing of plotting.
if you are on the idea of being a thief, you need to follow it up.
with perks i do a friggin 30X damage, a 17 damage daggers becomes a 170*3 thing, 510 damage hit on the back.
which is usually enough for anything.

and if you have two daggers...well, no need to tell , must i?
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« Reply #1148 on: November 15, 2011, 07:51:44 am »

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« Reply #1149 on: November 15, 2011, 07:57:39 am »

Restart the game completly and abandon 37 hour char because the scaling makes my thief unplayable in combat (1 hitted by default randrom creatures on easy difficulty, even thou I'm wearing full ebony armor and have 200 health) or slug onwards, hoping that the enemies eventually max there bullshit out?


wow totally re-roll and read up on thief. it sounds to me you want to be a warrior with ebony.

my thief can one shot anything but the "bossy" mobs from sneak attack.

meh im already on to my third char ( orc warrior ) i want to see through every storyline.
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« Reply #1150 on: November 15, 2011, 08:23:18 am »

I'm a thief-class. Light footed, able to sprint-sneak (Roll), archer damage, so forth.

I recently infiltrated a Dwemer ruin, and got through unabated by using my daggers alone.

I recently infiltrated a
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and got past all the high-level daughr by using my bow, and moving to a different location when they came investigating.
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« Reply #1151 on: November 15, 2011, 08:31:42 am »

and moving to a different location when they came investigating.

^ this. if you play stealth, you play stealth. some fight you won't win. and that's damn right for a thief! go around it, be clever, be stealthy.

(and by the way this is the reason I hate scripted encounter with enemies dropping on you, it takes away the fun of being a thief - luckily it happened only once - in the first dungeon - so far)
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« Reply #1152 on: November 15, 2011, 08:32:42 am »

Any ideas how to raise the difficulty?
I have it "master" allready and still it is way too easy to beat up all opponents.
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« Reply #1153 on: November 15, 2011, 08:44:31 am »

Any ideas how to raise the difficulty?
I have it "master" allready and still it is way too easy to beat up all opponents.


Specialize in pickpocketing.  ;)
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« Reply #1154 on: November 15, 2011, 08:56:33 am »

So far its not a huge problem with me because I've been working my destruction skill heavily as well. I can cast a shit load of firebolts and fireballs (or ice/lightning if its a fire resistant enemy) now due to the half mana perks and other various skills. I have something like 320 magicka due to leveling and gear that I've made myself and enchanted.

My biggest problem is that there are too many cool things to do so I end up splitting skills between forging, enchanting, alchemy, destruction, conjuration, one handed weapons, and light armor which means none of them are really high. My lowest is light armor at like 23 because I rarely actually get hit due to my conjurations. My highest is forging at 55 and destruction at 58.
scew firebolt and switch to lightiningbolt - its like a railgun from Quake. you really feel like a Sith casting this.
Lightningbolt is alright against mages, and I use it when fighting mages due to the magicka damage kicker. Fire is better for more things though, with the burn damage and the bonus against undead. If you space out firebolts to let each burn finish you do a lot of damage, and the impact perk keeps them at range.

I use whichever element suits the situation though. Fire atronach? Ice bolts. Ice atronach? Fire bolts. Bunch of wolves? Dual-fisted chain lightning AWWW YEAH.
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