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woose1

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Re: Discussion on TES V: Skyrim - IT'S ACTUALLY GOOD!
« Reply #1080 on: November 14, 2011, 09:36:06 pm »

I mean, I wanted to like skyrim, I wanted it to give me a reason to support bethesda for redeeming themselves.  There's just no way around it for me.  Bethesda can only release buggy, poorly thought out games that require modding to be truly good.  Making your game extremely open to modding doesn't make it a good game, it lets modders finish it for you.  Why am I going to pay you for someone else's work?
I don't know if I can be properly eloquent about this...

You are a very, very silly person.
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« Reply #1081 on: November 14, 2011, 09:36:50 pm »

Indeed, I agree he is a silly person.
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Well, you do have a busy life, what with keeping tabs on wild, rough-and-tumble forum members while sorting out the drama between your twenty two inner lesbians.
Your drunk posts continue to baffle me.
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« Reply #1082 on: November 14, 2011, 09:41:12 pm »

My thoughts on Skyrim could probably be summarized by my experiences with the College of Winterhold.

Spoiler'd due to huge rant.  It may contain some spoilers for the College of Winterhold, but that questline is a shaggy dog story so there's nothing to really spoil.
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This postscript contains actual spoilers:
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On a lighter note, what do you think is going to be the quote that becomes emblematic of the game?  We've had “HALT” from Daggerfall, “I'm watching you, scum” from Morrowind, and “Stop right there criminal scum” from Oblivion (although pretty much everything that the guards say in Oblivion is quotable).
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« Reply #1083 on: November 14, 2011, 09:43:26 pm »

Also:

I said, *one* of the worst ports ever. Which is true-

Spoiler: Warning, huge image. (click to show/hide)

I felt that was necessary to illustrate my feelings.
May I point you to the SNES version of Castle Wolfenstein 3D? Or, if you prefer more recent, the PC port of Resident Evil 4?
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« Reply #1084 on: November 14, 2011, 09:43:26 pm »

No doubt, I am very silly.

Also right.
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« Reply #1085 on: November 14, 2011, 09:54:49 pm »

Bethesda can only release buggy, poorly thought out games that require modding to be truly good.  Making your game extremely open to modding doesn't make it a good game, it lets modders finish it for you.  Why am I going to pay you for someone else's work?
Well put. I think I owe the people who make stuff like Oscuros and FWE and NME etc etc more gratitude than Beth.
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« Reply #1086 on: November 14, 2011, 10:00:19 pm »

To clarify, I don't think that no work goes into Beth games.  Hell, I think they put an enormous amount of work into their games.  I feel like their testers lack either the creativity or the fundamental knowledge of the game systems to be able to accurately find and weed out ridiculous bugs and exploits.  Their amount of works stops right where the hardest work starts, at polishing the game and balancing it.

Developers like Valve and (previously) Blizzard understand that what makes a truly great game is polish and balance.  I don't think many devs really get that.
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« Reply #1087 on: November 14, 2011, 10:02:44 pm »

Yeah I guess that's it. The creativity feels lacking. I didn't get that feeling from Morrowind for example.
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« Reply #1088 on: November 14, 2011, 10:04:57 pm »

You and Rez have obviously not read the Lusty Argonian Maid, V2.
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« Reply #1089 on: November 14, 2011, 10:06:28 pm »

You and Rez have obviously not read the Lusty Argonian Maid, V2.
It is obviously the most creative work of fiction ever made. All who disagree aren't educated enough to realize it.
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Well, you do have a busy life, what with keeping tabs on wild, rough-and-tumble forum members while sorting out the drama between your twenty two inner lesbians.
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« Reply #1090 on: November 14, 2011, 10:07:24 pm »

I am bested.
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« Reply #1091 on: November 14, 2011, 10:09:13 pm »

Developers like Valve and (previously) Blizzard understand that what makes a truly great game is polish and balance.  I don't think many devs really get that.

You do understand the irony of posting this statement in the Bay 12 forums, right?
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« Reply #1092 on: November 14, 2011, 10:11:05 pm »

You and Rez have obviously not read the Lusty Argonian Maid, V2.

Sweet! I didn't know there was a volume 2!!
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« Reply #1093 on: November 14, 2011, 10:15:43 pm »

given the low modability of Oblivion

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« Reply #1094 on: November 14, 2011, 10:24:58 pm »

* and toady

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