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[Furtuka]

Or maybe just a transcription error/misunderstanding on the part of the news site I got that from.

[blackmagechill]

What? No. Oblivion is as well defined as can be. It's the void that the Daedric and Aedric realms/plane(t)s reside in. It's beyond the Mundus/Creation, and beyond Oblivion in turn lies Aetherius. If the planes/realms are eggs floating in water, then Oblivion is the water. Except it's an unending expanse of nothing instead of liquid.

Hate to be nitpicky here, but what kind of eggs do you have that float in water?

[BuriBuriZaemon]

blackmage, you add salt into the water making the water more dense so the egg will become "lighter" than the mass of the water it displaces.

[blackmagechill]

Huh. Never tried it before.

[BuriBuriZaemon]

That's why you can't drown in the Dead Sea.

[Rose]

You can drown without sinking, you know.

[Eagle_eye]

dihydrogen monoxide can be deadly in amounts as small as a thimbleful!

[buckets]

dihydrogen monoxide can be deadly in amounts as small as a thimbleful!

That's why I keep away from the stuff.

[Trapezohedron]

Dawnguard's release date is tentatively scheduled for June 26?

On one hand, that's good, because I wouldn't have to wait long to play it. On the other hand, Bethesda is well known for not ironing out bugs or such.

[scriver]

Nothing in that quote says anything about Oblivion being a bowl of water. Or a bowl of space, or a bowl of anything. It does not support what you said, just because you claim it does. Does not state that Oblivion is an area, volume or some other kind of container, anymore than a herd of animals is a bucket (or any other facsimile) full of animals.

Look up "collective term".

If you want to support what you said, provide a link or something that actually supports what you said.

You do understand that it was an analogue, right? A simplified imagery used to help explain and understand a complicated concept. I never claimed it was an actual bowl (though the Tsaesci would definitely claim they are actual eggs). If one was to describe it as a "herd of animals", Oblivion would not just be the group of animals but the intangible socio-biological concepts and bonds holding them together. Oblivion is the void between the Planes of Oblivion. They belong to the "area" Oblivion, but Oblivion is not a Daedric plane in itself like they are planes (though it can be called a "plane" in the context of simply differentiating between the Mundus/Oblivon/Aetherius, but that is in another context than how it was used) - which is exactly what I originally protested against and what the DLC text claimed.

[forsaken1111]

You do understand that it was an analogue, right?

Analogy*

[Furtuka]

Dawnguard's release date is tentatively scheduled for June 26?

On one hand, that's good, because I wouldn't have to wait long to play it. On the other hand, Bethesda is well known for not ironing out bugs or such.

FoR the XBox people or the non XBox people?

[forsaken1111]

Dawnguard's release date is tentatively scheduled for June 26?

On one hand, that's good, because I wouldn't have to wait long to play it. On the other hand, Bethesda is well known for not ironing out bugs or such.

FoR the XBox people or the non XBox people?

People still play this on xbox?

[Trapezohedron]

Dawnguard's release date is tentatively scheduled for June 26?

On one hand, that's good, because I wouldn't have to wait long to play it. On the other hand, Bethesda is well known for not ironing out bugs or such.

FoR the XBox people or the non XBox people?

Checking other sources, it seems they'll release it for the Xbox first, then release it for the PS3 and PC a 30 or so days.

[Sergius]

Nothing in that quote says anything about Oblivion being a bowl of water. Or a bowl of space, or a bowl of anything. It does not support what you said, just because you claim it does. Does not state that Oblivion is an area, volume or some other kind of container, anymore than a herd of animals is a bucket (or any other facsimile) full of animals.

Look up "collective term".

If you want to support what you said, provide a link or something that actually supports what you said.

You do understand that it was an analogue, right? A simplified imagery used to help explain and understand a complicated concept. I never claimed it was an actual bowl (though the Tsaesci would definitely claim they are actual eggs). If one was to describe it as a "herd of animals", Oblivion would not just be the group of animals but the intangible socio-biological concepts and bonds holding them together. Oblivion is the void between the Planes of Oblivion. They belong to the "area" Oblivion, but Oblivion is not a Daedric plane in itself like they are planes (though it can be called a "plane" in the context of simply differentiating between the Mundus/Oblivon/Aetherius, but that is in another context than how it was used) - which is exactly what I originally protested against and what the DLC text claimed.

Well, thanks for proving my point, that Oblivion isn't well defined at all.

The analogy would be that Oblivion is a thing. And that it contains other things.

My quote shows that Oblivion is not a thing. It's a collective noun of other things.

You can't have a herd without the animals. The animals ARE the herd. The planes ARE Oblivion. They're not floating in it or anything.