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[scriver]

It's been out for a few months. I guess people have said what they have to say.

[kcwong]

It's been out for a few months. I guess people have said what they have to say.

Until Beth finally release the CK that is...

[Wolf Tengu]

Ha. I have the console version, so I never win ever!

I also found the hardest book to read ever! But I guess it was meant to be, seeing as it was covered in blood...

[Neyvn]

I am waiting for my Fav Mod to load up...

[Antioch]

While many game mechanics have been improved, Skyrim suffers from really bad quest and dungeon design, the leveling system also doesn't help.
I am so sick of getting good stuff just because I am lvl 40 instead of having earned it by storming through 8km of maze like dungeon. You are never rewarded for exploring because every dungeon is basically the same.

[forsaken1111]

While many game mechanics have been improved, Skyrim suffers from really bad quest and dungeon design, the leveling system also doesn't help.
I am so sick of getting good stuff just because I am lvl 40 instead of having earned it by storming through 8km of maze like dungeon. You are never rewarded for exploring because every dungeon is basically the same.

In that same vein, if you do the civil war quests later on when you're level 25 or so the rewards don't scale. As my final thank you gift for helping the stormcloaks win I got... some scale armor. You know, the armor you can make at like blacksmithing 40 or buy from a shop for ~100 gold. Before that was a glass sword (unenchanted) and a glass sword with a 3 point fire enchant.

[Tarran]

The Imperials certainly give better gifts. I've gotten enchanted Ebony swords from them (the last even good enough for me to use as a medium-high level character for quite a bit; the enchantment was pretty good), as well as an ebony shield if I recall correctly.

[Leatra]

Quest rewards are never good in any TES game. I do quests just for the sake of doing them. I liked the quests of Morrowind and Oblivion more. We didn't have this much "miscellaneous" quests. I hate all these miscellaneous quests. Pretty much all of them are "deliver this" or "clear that dungeon" kind of quests.

[Duke 2.0]

instead of having earned it by storming through 8km of maze like dungeon

That is...

Bad design! Like, terrible really. Unless the game takes place mostly in said dungeon I fail to see the point other than taking way to damn long. Blackreach was a fun romp, but if it has gone on for much longer it would have been terrible.

The quests are not that much worse than the ones in the other games. Morrowind got a lot of apparent complexity for having to use directions and having text screens instead of voice acting. Besides that they have not really been any better. I also dig all the minor sidequests. It grants you a reason for exploring these dungeons and exploring parts of towns you would not normally have checked out yourself.

And there is a severe understatement for all the really good quests. Like the drinking contest guy in Winterhold.

Basically It Ain't That Bad. I would dig a bit more flexibility to the dungeon layout motifs, but after Bethesda committed the design perfection of having shortcuts back to the dungeon entrance at the end of each dungeon I can't really get too sour.

[Rex_Nex]

Thank god for that thing where the end of the dungeon has some secret passage to the start. Walking all the way back pissed me off BEYOND ALL THINGS in Oblivion.

[forsaken1111]

Thank god for that thing where the end of the dungeon has some secret passage to the start. Walking all the way back pissed me off BEYOND ALL THINGS in Oblivion most other games.

FTFY, also I agree 101%

[Rose]

So anyway, patch notes have been released, and the CK is coming out.

[PTTG??]

So anyway, patch notes have been released, and the CK is coming out.

FINALLY.

I can't wait to get a mod that makes everyone mortal.

[forsaken1111]

So anyway, patch notes have been released, and the CK is coming out.

FINALLY.

I can't wait to get a mod that makes everyone mortal.

Except for the daedric princes right?

[Jopax]

So my friend just killed Alduin, at level 13, having only followed the main quest, he claims he completed the game.

That statement is wrong on so many levels that I have to refrain myself from throwing stuff at him in petty rage X(