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Author Topic: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim  (Read 1621187 times)

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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #12870 on: August 20, 2016, 08:33:41 am »

Yeah the bird folk still exsist. Khajiit are a magical split from bosmer, like the orcs.
The Orcs weren't a split from the bosmer, they were their own tribe of mer prior to their transformation into Orcs.

No, they were just Aldtmer followers Whatshisname who got poopified.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #12871 on: August 20, 2016, 09:01:44 am »

Boethiah. I think the story goes that he defeated Aldmeri god Trinimac and he got poopified (like, literally) and transformed into Malacath.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #12872 on: August 20, 2016, 09:20:17 am »

Trinimac was the name I was thinking about, yes. The Orcs were followers of Trinimac. Trinimac tried to stop Azura, Namidia, and Boethiah from corrupting the Aldtmer liberating the Aldtmer leaving with the Chimer and Boethiah ated him.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #12873 on: August 20, 2016, 10:16:51 am »

Akavir to the east, is where the vampiric serpents(Tsaesci), Monkey-men(Tang Mo), Tiger-men(Ka Po' Tun) and snow-demons(Kamal) live. Both the Tsaesci and the Kamal have launched invasions of Tamriel and Akavir has in turn been invaded by the Empire, while the Ka Po' Tun wish to invade Tamriel but want to wait until they have defeated the Tsaesci first. Akavir is also where the Nerevarine lead an expedition to just prior to the Oblivion crisis and the eruption of Red Mountain. If precedent is followed and the canonical Nerevarine was a Dunmer, they could well still be running around Akavir.
A few things, mostly addendums: there are also Men of Akavir; we only know the race of one main-series protagonist (the Arena one (Imperial, ironically since they were unplayable)); only source we have for the Nerevarine being a 'he' is Master Neloth, glorious douchebag; And the Nerevarine could've stayed/died in the various islands between Tamriel and Akavir.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #12874 on: August 20, 2016, 10:28:09 am »

The Men of Akavir aren't Men any more, though. The Tsaesci ate them, became them, and now the Tsaesci is the Men of Akavir.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #12875 on: August 20, 2016, 03:39:10 pm »

If precedent is followed and the canonical Nerevarine was a Dunmer, they could well still be running around Akavir.
Why he would have to be a Dunmer to be still alive? Am I missing something?
It mostly follows from two things. First assuming that any potential game in which we could meet the Nerevarine occurs after the events of Skyrim, its been long enough that, barring special snowflake status, a Nerevarine who was a member of one of the races of Man, Orc or a Beastfolk would have died from age, so a living Nerevarine would need to be one of the Mer.

The second, and somewhat flimsier reason is that, the only example we have of meeting a previous player character is the Champion of Cyrodiil/Sheogorath, who appeared as an Imperial Male in Skyrim. With Oblivion having been focused on the Imperial province, this then would suggest that the champion of the game that focused on the Morrowind province would be a Dunmer. Obviously with Sheogorath being himself it's entirely possible that he has changed his appearance since his days running around in Cyrodil, but it's the only datapoint we have to go on.

Now it's possible that they would go with the Nerevarine having perished long ago, in which case they could have been of any race, but the idea here is thinking of what would be necessary for meeting a living Nerevarine.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #12876 on: August 20, 2016, 03:47:34 pm »

If precedent is followed and the canonical Nerevarine was a Dunmer, they could well still be running around Akavir.
Why he would have to be a Dunmer to be still alive? Am I missing something?
It mostly follows from two things. First assuming that any potential game in which we could meet the Nerevarine occurs after the events of Skyrim, its been long enough that, barring special snowflake status, a Nerevarine who was a member of one of the races of Man, Orc or a Beastfolk would have died from age, so a living Nerevarine would need to be one of the Mer.
Nerevarine had corprus (remember, Divayth Fyr only removed the bad effects), which means they are ageless now.

The second, and somewhat flimsier reason is that, the only example we have of meeting a previous player character is the Champion of Cyrodiil/Sheogorath, who appeared as an Imperial Male in Skyrim. With Oblivion having been focused on the Imperial province, this then would suggest that the champion of the game that focused on the Morrowind province would be a Dunmer. Obviously with Sheogorath being himself it's entirely possible that he has changed his appearance since his days running around in Cyrodil, but it's the only datapoint we have to go on.
Shegorath appeared as himself. The CoC became Sheogorath in a quite literal way, and daedric princes can appear however they please.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #12877 on: August 20, 2016, 04:04:23 pm »

If precedent is followed and the canonical Nerevarine was a Dunmer, they could well still be running around Akavir.
Why he would have to be a Dunmer to be still alive? Am I missing something?
It mostly follows from two things. First assuming that any potential game in which we could meet the Nerevarine occurs after the events of Skyrim, its been long enough that, barring special snowflake status, a Nerevarine who was a member of one of the races of Man, Orc or a Beastfolk would have died from age, so a living Nerevarine would need to be one of the Mer.
Nerevarine had corprus (remember, Divayth Fyr only removed the bad effects), which means they are ageless now.
Awwww, come on, I wanted to bring that Lore Hammer on him. :/
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #12878 on: August 20, 2016, 04:05:47 pm »

Linear Warriors, Quadratic Wizards... Cubic Stealth-Based classes.
Playing a dagger sneak-attacker in TES games.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #12879 on: August 20, 2016, 09:03:15 pm »

@Teneb: Did corprus disappear along with Dagoth Ur? Seeing as it was his creation, a divine plague and all. I can't remember whether there's mention of it beyond the events of Morrowind.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #12880 on: August 20, 2016, 09:10:25 pm »

Linear Warriors, Quadratic Wizards... Cubic Stealth-Based classes.
Playing a dagger sneak-attacker in TES games.

The problem is that, like, there's no point to not being a stealth whatever. Why be an archer when you can be a stealth archer? Why be a warrior when you can be a stealth warrior?

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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #12881 on: August 20, 2016, 09:21:33 pm »

@Teneb: Did corprus disappear along with Dagoth Ur? Seeing as it was his creation, a divine plague and all. I can't remember whether there's mention of it beyond the events of Morrowind.
If it didn't, it did when Red Mountain exploded, as all the infected were in the island.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #12882 on: August 20, 2016, 09:26:35 pm »

@Teneb: Did corprus disappear along with Dagoth Ur? Seeing as it was his creation, a divine plague and all. I can't remember whether there's mention of it beyond the events of Morrowind.
If it didn't, it did when Red Mountain exploded, as all the infected were in the island.

Unless the Nevarine was somewhere else.  They were infected with Corprus, and was only cured of the negative effects.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #12883 on: August 20, 2016, 09:37:48 pm »

Can someone explain what we're talking about in normal words?
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #12884 on: August 20, 2016, 09:38:57 pm »

Well, I kind of meant what with Corprus disease being created by Dagoth Ur, would its continued existance rely on him still being alive? Dagoth Ur was using his god powers to spread it with the Blight, without that were the infected cured when he was defeated or did they remain infected? Brielfy looking around I don't think there's any lore on the matter.
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