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[CaptainArchmage]

You can just remove the Stonesense plugin; it's got further issues with 10.6.8 support, IIRC. (Or ignore the message; it shouldn't interfere with normal operation, I don't think.)

Er, is there any way to fix this? I kinda DLed dfhack only for it... . also, speaking of updates, I heard you can ask the storekeeper to give a flash drive with the OS upgrade. Is that true?

As I said, I do not currently have access to a 10.6.8 build machine. Thus, even when I get stonesense fully working for 10.7+, there is no guarantee that it will work on 10.6.

If you are willing to do a little extra work, you could build it yourself. I'd even be willing to help you through the process (preferably on IRC, in the #dfhack channel on Freenode, but I'm flexible).

For the update, I don't think they're selling the flash drives anymore: they're not selling Lion at all.

I have such a machine (10.6. and so I could *try* to build one myself. How exactly does this work?

You can use a PM if the process is extremely complicated.

[narhiril]

A small request for AutoSyndrome:

As I understand it...

Spoiler: Priorities (click to show/hide)

1. If the syndrome has no syn_affected_class and no syn_affected_creature, then everyone is affected, unless they have syn_immune_creature or syn_immune_class.
2. syn_immune_creatures are immune
3. syn_affected_creatures are affected
4. syn_immune_classes are immune
5. syn_affected_classes are affected

Is there any chance that priorities 3 and 4 could be switched, thereby giving immunities priority over affected creature/classes?  Maybe a silly request, but I can envision this getting muddled up somewhere down the line.

[expwnent]

The reasoning was that you can have an immune class, but have a creature be affected as an exception, despite having that class. If a creature is named specifically as affected, then it really ought to be affected.

[WillowLuman]

The reasoning was that you can have an immune class, but have a creature be affected as an exception, despite having that class. If a creature is named specifically as affected, then it really ought to be affected.

But that means if you have a syndrome that's supposed to affect normal humans alone, and not vampires, werewolves, or zombies/husks, then it will affect them regardless.

[expwnent]

Hm. Is that the way syndromes normally work?

[danaris]

You can just remove the Stonesense plugin; it's got further issues with 10.6.8 support, IIRC. (Or ignore the message; it shouldn't interfere with normal operation, I don't think.)

Er, is there any way to fix this? I kinda DLed dfhack only for it... . also, speaking of updates, I heard you can ask the storekeeper to give a flash drive with the OS upgrade. Is that true?

As I said, I do not currently have access to a 10.6.8 build machine. Thus, even when I get stonesense fully working for 10.7+, there is no guarantee that it will work on 10.6.

If you are willing to do a little extra work, you could build it yourself. I'd even be willing to help you through the process (preferably on IRC, in the #dfhack channel on Freenode, but I'm flexible).

For the update, I don't think they're selling the flash drives anymore: they're not selling Lion at all.

I have such a machine (10.6. and so I could *try* to build one myself. How exactly does this work?

You can use a PM if the process is extremely complicated.

The process is described in the Compile document.

If you need help, then during the week, you're likely to be able to find me as Delvin_Anaris or Delvin_at_Work in the DFHack channel on Freenode's IRC server. (Help of this sort is vastly easier in a real-time format than over forum PM. But if you can't do IRC, I can do my best to help over PM.  )

[tahujdt]

Can anyone tell me how to change the Dfusion plugin to use caste names?

[WillowLuman]

Hm. Is that the way syndromes normally work?

Yes, as those get [SYN_CLASS:WEREBEAST/VAMPIRE/ANIMATED_CORPSE] in order to prevent someone repeatedly getting the same curse or getting both lycanthropy and vampirism. If you want a syndrome to target all members of one species regardless of curse status or undeath, just give it [SYN_AFFECTED_CREATURE] and nothing else. Those curses won't disqualify if the syndrome doesn't have any disqualifications specified.

[CaptainArchmage]

Thanks, I'm starting by downloading the stuff needed to make cmake work. I didn't find any "downloads" section in the XCode preferences, but I've used the command prompt to compile programs before (and I have used "make install" for a few things).

If things go well I might be able to finish this tomorrow, but I cannot give any guarantees. Delay beyond tomorrow may result in this taking a few days

How many other people here use Mac OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard)? Also is this the earliest version of Mac that will run DF or is the earliest version 10.5 (which also runs with Intel macs)?

[Deep]

Hi.  I started trying to use DFHack recently.  if i type "prospect" into the command window it seems to work and gives me mineral info

if i type "tweak patrol-duty" nothing seems to happen and there is no impact in game as far as i can see, could anyone tell me what i need to type in to activate the fix on training counting towards bad thoughts.  I have spent a long time reading the DF-Hack readme but i must be doing something wrong or not understanding it .. in fact there are lots of things that it talks about that i cant access. i typed "ls" and it doesn't list or give commands for a lot of stuff in the readme or probably im just not understanding it

[splinterz]

is there any way to determine which skills are rusty vs very rusty? i'm assuming it's using the values in the unit's skill list (unused_counter, rusty, rust_counter and demotion_counter) but i haven't been able to figure out where it draws the line between rusty and very rusty.

[CaptainArchmage]

Progress update: I'm currently installing the mac ports dependencies. It is mentioned this may take a long time; yesterday it appeared stuck so I terminated the process and instead went on to install the pearl dependencies. Do I need to have the mac ports dependencies installed or can I use the binary install for cmake and then compile?

Edit: Crisis averted, the mac port dependencies install is done. I'm now going to look into the actual compilation of dfhack. Typing stuff into the terminal during compilation may screw things up.

Update: I've downloaded a fresh, completely unmodded version of the latest Dwarf Fortress and used it. The program is at the "make" stage which means hopefully stuff will be finished without errors.

Update2: The process failed in the make stage with the following errors

dfhack/library/LuaTypes.cpp:467:55: error: 'strnlen' was not declared in this scope
make[2]: *** [library/CMakeFiles/dfhack.dir/LuaTypes.cpp.o] Error 1
make[1]: *** [library/CMakeFiles/dfhack.dir/all] Error 2
make: *** [all] Error 2

I've tried to restart the process, but I get the same error. Problem seems to lie in the code.

[danaris]

Progress update: I'm currently installing the mac ports dependencies. It is mentioned this may take a long time; yesterday it appeared stuck so I terminated the process and instead went on to install the pearl dependencies. Do I need to have the mac ports dependencies installed or can I use the binary install for cmake and then compile?

Edit: Crisis averted, the mac port dependencies install is done. I'm now going to look into the actual compilation of dfhack. Typing stuff into the terminal during compilation may screw things up.

Update: I've downloaded a fresh, completely unmodded version of the latest Dwarf Fortress and used it. The program is at the "make" stage which means hopefully stuff will be finished without errors.

Update2: The process failed in the make stage with the following errors

dfhack/library/LuaTypes.cpp:467:55: error: 'strnlen' was not declared in this scope
make[2]: *** [library/CMakeFiles/dfhack.dir/LuaTypes.cpp.o] Error 1
make[1]: *** [library/CMakeFiles/dfhack.dir/all] Error 2
make: *** [all] Error 2

I've tried to restart the process, but I get the same error. Problem seems to lie in the code.

CaptainArchmage, I should be able to help you bash at this tomorrow during the day (US Eastern time). I'll be available in the aforementioned IRC channel, or you can shoot me a forum PM when you'll be around if web-IRC isn't a viable option for you.

[CaptainArchmage]

Thanks. I've written down the single error message I get as it appears starting with the file address. I'll have to check up on my schedule as it goes.

Update: OK I think I've got why the compile was failing, but I now have further problems with a missing Docutils, which wasn't happening before. I will need to look this over tomorrow. may have been happening but I didn't get any fatal errors so I disregarded it, is it serious?

I'm going to try to make with the edited file.

Still has the "out of scope" error.

[Meph]

A quick question: Can a building be given the OUTSIDE tag, like furniture or windmills already have? For something thats needs to be build aboveground.