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[Eric Blank]

Oh! I've got a thought!

I just reviewed the profile of my old manager, who is apparently still a manager. My manager, however, is the expedition leader of my reclaim team.

Anyway, the old manager is manager of "The Granite Citadels," while my reclaim team are members of "The Bent Plank." These are local government names. Can't recall if the Granite Citadels was the original local government of my fortress, or if it is the government installed after I abandoned, but I'd wager that's the reason the dwarves can't be assigned noble positions, but still hold noble positions seemingly of their own accord. They're actually part of a different government entity, outside the player's jurisdiction.

It's almost as if Toady secretly updated my game to 34.12...

Edit: Actually, a lot of the old dwarves are members of both "The Crypt of Weavers" and "The Granite Citadel."

[Cardinal]

Oh! I've got a thought!

I just reviewed the profile of my old manager, who is apparently still a manager. My manager, however, is the expedition leader of my reclaim team.

Anyway, the old manager is manager of "The Granite Citadels," while my reclaim team are members of "The Bent Plank." These are local government names. Can't recall if the Granite Citadels was the original local government of my fortress, or if it is the government installed after I abandoned, but I'd wager that's the reason the dwarves can't be assigned noble positions, but still hold noble positions seemingly of their own accord. They're actually part of a different government entity, outside the player's jurisdiction.

It's almost as if Toady secretly updated my game to 34.12...

Edit: Actually, a lot of the old dwarves are members of both "The Crypt of Weavers" and "The Granite Citadel."

I think you're onto something. I still haven't figured out what determines "membership". There's a "civ_id" trait and a "population_id" trait, and I've set these to the same values for my merchants but that just affects citizenship. I'm not sure what affects membership and have yet to see some trait in the units or the flags that seems to hold that value.

[Rumrusher]

Wait did someone in SA just figure out how to switch from fort mode to adventure mode using the old way of switching?

Eric try messing with the reclaim modes my guess is one of them will reclaim as the same group from before, and the other is reclaiming as a different group of dwarves. Also you can use a pointer and lua to set someone as an adventurer in fort mode so that when you switch over you don't have to jump as many hoops.

[Quietust]

I think you're onto something. I still haven't figured out what determines "membership". There's a "civ_id" trait and a "population_id" trait, and I've set these to the same values for my merchants but that just affects citizenship. I'm not sure what affects membership and have yet to see some trait in the units or the flags that seems to hold that value.

The "population_id" trait is only for wild animals. What you're looking for is within the unit's historical_figure record: entity links.

[Cardinal]

The "population_id" trait is only for wild animals. What you're looking for is within the unit's historical_figure record: entity links.

It seems like civilized dwarves have population_id values, though, any idea why?

Also, I'm looking at the df.global.world.history.figures.entity_links, is that what you mean? The dwarves that are members of local government have two entity_link values, whereas my newly civilized merchant has only one, but the values are unique, they are not simple integers like civ_id. How are they handled?

[ag]

It seems like civilized dwarves have population_id values, though, any idea why?

Also, I'm looking at the df.global.world.history.figures.entity_links, is that what you mean? The dwarves that are members of local government have two entity_link values, whereas my newly civilized merchant has only one, but the values are unique, they are not simple integers like civ_id. How are they handled?

There are entity populations too - no idea what are they used for; maybe that's where the 'hill dwarves' will be handled in the future, and whatever similar there is already in legends & adventure modes (like maybe all the nameless citizens in towns, etc). That population_id field is actually entity populations - animals use a whole structure with multiple fields to select one of the many possible populations they can come from (see unit.unknown4.population).

Links are objects - they have fields and methods.

[Cardinal]

Links are objects - they have fields and methods.

Could you give me quick tutorial or point me at something that describes how to work with them?

[Miskav]

After reading some posts here having the same problem, I haven't found a solution yet.

I put the DFhack stuff together with the corresponding DF version and upon starting DF a second screen doesn't popup.
This is on win7 64x.

Any ideas?

[Makbeth]

I found out how to reset patrol anger to zero for individual dorfs, and thought it would be nice to make a script to do it to all dorfs.  Not sure how to cycle through just the units in one's fortress though.

This might be running before I've learned to walk, but a true fix for this would be to trigger the function whenever they go from active to inactive status.  Is that possible?

[mordrax]

i'm at a loss on how to set the dyer to dye all my dimple cups using workflow. i've been crawling through the object and entity files but haven't found how to set a watch on the dye. anyone know? or can direct me on where to look?

[Mr S]

A walkthrough of workflow would be handy.  As detailed or generalized as can be.  I'll be trying it out for the first time on the fortress I'm just getting going.  Haven't used workflow before, just been abusing the Manager, lol.  As I understand it, it "suspends" then "un-suspends" work orders set to repeat in a workshop?  Will the un-suspension be put back to the workshop it was taken from?  If so, what about the case where said workshop is removed, destroyed, inaccessible, covered in magma, etc.?  Handy for cases such as glass works where you have a couple next to the surface for gathering, then a magma glass works at the sea for actually making things.

The README give syntax, but no real detail about Theory of Operation, which is what I really need for all of these Hax.

[Makbeth]

Alright, I think I might have something:

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local index = 0
local total = #(df.global.world.units.active)
local max = total-1

for index=0,max do

unit=df.global.world.units.active[index]

if dfhack.units.isCitizen(unit) then

unit.military.patrol_timer=0

end
This will (I hope) get the list of active units, check each one to see if it's a live, sane member of your fort.  If so, it resets their patrol timer to 0.  It's my attempt to counteract the long patrol duty bug.

This is my first real script, and I'm not sure if there's something I don't know that could cause memory leaks or some sort of data corruption here if I was clumsy, though it seems like it should work.  Could someone please verify that for me?

How much trouble can I create for myself by using the lua console anyway?  Is it limited to corrupting my save files or can I actually cause permanent damage to my operating system or PC?  How hard is that to do and what sort of things would lead to that?

[Hesuchia]

The worst I've ever done with the lua console is crash my game. It's probably best to quicksave beforehand (though sometimes I'm lazy and reckless ).

you could also do something like

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for k, v in pairs(df.global.world.units.active) do
if dfhack.units.isCitizen(v) then
v.military.patrol_timer=0

so you won't have to worry about an index value.  You could also do "units.all" instead of "units.active" so you don't have to worry about what "active" might mean. It'll still just iterate through your own civs.

The for k, v in pairs(blah) splits "blah" into a table of key/value pairs. In this case an index number and a pointer to a specific unit, so the index would already be accounted for.  It's a handy shortcut that I use for pretty much everything .

[Makbeth]

I've seen that a lot of places but had no idea what it does.  Thanks!

[Hesuchia]

No problem. If you want to actually see the pairs it'll split into, you can use the "printall" command.  printall(df.global.world.units.active) will show the k and the v for the units in that last example.  Really, really useful for exploring code structures.