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[tahujdt]

The Troll DirtyChineseCigarettes has come! An annoying 12 year old with ADHD, it posts rude comments designed to seed anger. Beware its flames!

[DirtyChineseCigarettes]

i joined the forum before you did.

anyways im not trolling, the update caught me inbetween forts and without prospect i dont know if im getting fucked at embark. i dont want to gen in .05 and then update, esp since he said the update would come today and because there can be bugs.

althought it was fun to play the part, a few trixsy posts and the flame retardants came busting in frothing at the mouth " IGOTS THIS GUSY I GOTS THIS HES A TROLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

[tahujdt]

The spinning comeback strikes the tahujdt in the ego, fracturing the supposed superiority and bruising the dignity! tahujdt has been struck down.

[WillowLuman]

The spinning comeback strikes the tahujdt in the ego, fracturing the supposed superiority and bruising the dignity! tahujdt has been struck down.

Good sportsmanship

[quintilius]

The spinning comeback strikes the tahujdt in the ego, fracturing the supposed superiority and bruising the dignity! tahujdt has been struck down.

Good sportsmanship

Yep -and better than than Tahujdt latches on.... i could do without 15 pages of red spam

[tahujdt]

Alternate ending: the spinning comeback strikes the tahujdt in the ego and the severed part sails off in an arc!

[khearn]

Alternate ending: the spinning comeback strikes the tahujdt in the ego and the severed part sails off in an arc!

There are many, many students of zen who wish it were so easy to rid oneself of one's ego.

[Andux]

I was poking around in the git repository, and it looks like things have gotten quite a bit more complex from the days of just having to update a memory offset for a particular tool to work.  Is that accurate?

Yeah. The way old DFHack did things, all the addresses (which give the location of statically-allocated structs, including pointers to dynamically-allocated stuff) and offsets (which give the location of fields within dynamically-allocated structs) were loaded at runtime from one big XML file.
Tools needed to update for a typical new version of DF:

• Cheat Engine (or similar)
• a decent text editor

In the new DFHack, all the offsets (and a fair number of addresses) are gone; all structs are now described using a system of XML files, which get translated into C++ header files and compiled into the DFHack binary.
Tools needed to update for a typical new version of DF:

• git
• cmake
• perl with XML::LibXML and XML::LibXSLT
• MSVC++ 2010 (on Windows) or GCC (on Linux)

I guess the new system is meant to improve speed (nice for stuff like stonesense) and memory usage (very important, since the new SDL-fakery means DFHack lives in the same memory-space as DF now), but I'm glad it's not my job to update it.

[narhiril]

... I'm glad it's not my job to update it.

Amen to that.

[Rose]

I was poking around in the git repository, and it looks like things have gotten quite a bit more complex from the days of just having to update a memory offset for a particular tool to work.  Is that accurate?

Yeah. The way old DFHack did things, all the addresses (which give the location of statically-allocated structs, including pointers to dynamically-allocated stuff) and offsets (which give the location of fields within dynamically-allocated structs) were loaded at runtime from one big XML file.
Tools needed to update for a typical new version of DF:

• Cheat Engine (or similar)
• a decent text editor

In the new DFHack, all the offsets (and a fair number of addresses) are gone; all structs are now described using a system of XML files, which get translated into C++ header files and compiled into the DFHack binary.
Tools needed to update for a typical new version of DF:

• git
• cmake
• perl with XML::LibXML and XML::LibXSLT
• MSVC++ 2010 (on Windows) or GCC (on Linux)

I guess the new system is meant to improve speed (nice for stuff like stonesense) and memory usage (very important, since the new SDL-fakery means DFHack lives in the same memory-space as DF now), but I'm glad it's not my job to update it.

Actually, we need more than that.

Cheat engine is still needed, as is ida, and likely a few other things I don't know about.

[Beeskee]

Is this the place to post suggestions? I'd love to see a "Spear of Armok" / "Adamantine Spire" generator - something that makes a heaven-to-hell adamantine spire on a specified spot on the map.

If there's a way to do that with the existing utility, I could definitely use instructions how. I tried to use the "tiletypes" command to do this but I just could not figure out how. If it's possible to do with that, I could use step-by-step instructions.

[robertheinrich]

With the existing dfhack itīs not possible to create new adamantine spires similar to the usual ones (i.e. huge spires stretching vertically over lots fo z levels). You can however cheat infinite amounts onto your map with changevein, probably also tiletypes. And the next version will allow you to change the material of stone layers so you could turn your whole map into candy.

Now what you want is probably possible somehow (by creating new veins on the game map), but it would need to be programmed first.

Edit: I still have to figure out how to properly use tiletypes myself. It could use some better documentation.
With changevein it works like this:
- put in-game cursor over a vein or cluster (for example one of those ugly microcline blobs).
- in the dfhack console type 'changevein RAW_ADAMANTINE' and press enter

[Malarauko]

Long time user first time poster.

Please keep up all the good work and take all the time you need to make DFHack work.

[Girlinhat]

Is this the place to post suggestions? I'd love to see a "Spear of Armok" / "Adamantine Spire" generator - something that makes a heaven-to-hell adamantine spire on a specified spot on the map.

If there's a way to do that with the existing utility, I could definitely use instructions how. I tried to use the "tiletypes" command to do this but I just could not figure out how. If it's possible to do with that, I could use step-by-step instructions.

Tiletype deals with specific tiles.  The adamantine spires are map features, where the game essentially does worldgen, and during worldgen it leaves a sticky note, "there is a spire on this square".  Then it leaves it there.  When you actually visit the location, it makes the location on the spot and saves it.  When it makes the location, it gathers all the sticky notes it left during worldgen.  "The grass is arrow grass, the trees are maple, the dirt is clay, there is a spire."  Proper spires occur when it accidentally grabs the wrong sticky note.  Instead of "there is a spire at z20" it accidentally gets a "there is a spire at z100".

I've attempted to compile more information but it seems no one really caught onto it very heavily.

[Eater of Vermin]

Is this the one? http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=104015.0

That's the one!  Thx.