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[Digital Hellhound]

I don't, and Aulon sure as hell doesn't.

You can assume Aulon arrives now, if that's keeping you waiting. I can post if need be, but there won't be any flavor.

[thatkid]

The first step for Aulon would probably be to appeal to Erik's honor, and then how you deal with Sir Taric's hostage situation.

e; and since when does Elbreth have no need for a trade route with Vasir?

[filiusenox]

Hey...person who wanted to play the preist...Im gonna be working on the Jorgumundist page today, you could play one of them.Their pretty combat oreintated and wear a gaint snakeskin cape. I had a lot of brillaint ideas about them last night before bed...
Goddamn this game is like heroin.

Anyway, Zako, what page was the begining of the conversation on?

And how many engineers would it take to build a Canal to Sheepstead from the nearest river and or ocean?

[Iituem]

Very good question.  I'll take Roads as my base (5d to build, 1d/year to upkeep).

You'd need to build it through Elbreth and either Miring or Preston (Miring would be the shorter route).  It's also worth remembering that Elbreth is very hilly, so that makes it much harder than building canals on flatland would be due the necessity of creating lots of locks for the canals to change level.  On top of that you would need to divert rivers from a high enough altitude to fill the canal.

Depending on your luck roll (specifically on whether any suitable rivers were located nearby) it would range anywhere from two to three times the cost to build as two roads (i.e. 20-30d), but probably only 1 to 2 roads' upkeep at the end (painful to build, cheaper to maintain).  I would probably let them count as roads for the purposes of transport as well.  I'd say two engineers in terms of specialist cost.

The advantage would be that you could sail smaller ships (i.e. not carracks) into Elbreth to load up and discharge without adding to the travel distance, and they would double up as roads.  You would not be able to conduct any naval fighting on a canal, but you could sail troops up one.  Technically you could use the canal system to connect two seas or bodies of water as well.

Still rehearsing, but tonight's update should include some events for Miring, Elbreth and Weyland.  Doc Johnston, if you haven't already, you should respond as to whether you accept Manskinner's demand that you duel - if not, it'll depend on whether McHale does (and he might not, I'll roll for it).

[Ardas]

To be perfectly honest with you, canals aren't viable in a hilly country like Elbreth and they weren't that widespread until 19th century. Considering the geography and the time involved, Elbreth should have a road built. Shame there is no rivers there. But its too late to amend the georgaphy I guess...

[filiusenox]

I forgot Elberth was a hillland....so i need to build roads, eh?
Fine by me.

[CyberGenesis]

You're going to pay for roads? Cool...cause part of my trade guild was going to go toward the creation and maintaining of roads

But now that i look at it, theres no reason to since the larger trading areas are to the east of us currently. So i'll put emphasis on sea trade then

[filiusenox]

Yes, although contributions would be good, and im also going to build a gaint clocktower in eithier Lonemine or Sheepstead.
Mainly for the impressive factor.
But thats after:
Set up the rescue of Taric and bring him back to Elberth.
I build Le Château des anguilles de la colonne vertébrale Castle Or Chatue Vertbrale for short
Colonize southren Eelspine
Help conquer Suul
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Build several major roads.
And then Ill build this.

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Im thinking it will require four tons of bronze, thirty-two tons of iron/steel, two tons of silver, a ton of gold, and two tons of lead- for the pendulum - and two more tons of iron to cover said pendulum.About five engineers, and two master clockmakers. Plus a labor cost of 3-4 ducuts with an extra learning cost of 5 ducats to train the peasents to work with metal, with two ducats also being used to buy out the land in Sheepstead, if i build it in Sheepstead.
It will most likely cost 2-3 ducats to mantain a year as well.
So alone the labor will cost:19 ducats or so.
The materials will cost alot more.

Its also going to chime the beggining to Avenged Sevenfold's Nightmare.
I also need to figure out how to keep the pendulum in continual motion with stopping to be recharged or such.

[Taricus]

Seems a bit useless for something that could be around 25-40 ducats in total...

[King_of_the_weasels]

the materials alone would be around 100000 ducats.  Seeing as gold is over 1000 dollars USD an OUNCE.

Did a wee bit more simple math

32000 ounces = 1 ton

So one ton of gold costs 32,000,000 dollars.  A ducat is like 100 bucks.

[filiusenox]

Seems a bit useless for something that could be around 25-40 ducats in total...

Yes its incredibly friggin useless, but by that time i'll be able to waste my money...hopefully and it would also shock and awe visiting nobles and diplomats.

[Taricus]

For about a fifth of that you could just kill them.

[filiusenox]

For about a fifth of that you could just kill them.

Yes, but still I plan on building it. Kain will live to be three hundred if he's lucky two hundred if he isn't.
I have plenty of time to build this behemoth.

Oh and weasel a ton of gold costs 18 ducats at base price.

So the entire thing at base price will cost: 158d+

[Ardas]

Why on Earth do you need a road built? Isn't it a Crown thing to maintain infrastructure in the country? Besides, a road in a such a small country is pointless at present.
There is no large-scale trade yet, the Mirish coast is a smoldering ruin and Elbreth produces nothing but wool.

[King_of_the_weasels]

There's no way in hell that's right.

That would mean a single ducat is worth 1777777.80 US dollars.


And I won that much playing dice?  No.