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[Iituem]

Even from an RP perspective, My position is unassailable.

Or did you forget who was in charge of Miring's defense, if only briefly? If a path from A(The port) to B(The castle) Still goes up against the fullc astle defense bonus, then I have no reason to chance it. Not when an assured victory awaits me if I wait.
So yeah.. No reason to start anything. Be disappointed, I am a little. I thought it would make for a great battle if they were at one side massacring Taricus, while I was sneaking into the castle from behind to cut them down.

Rrgh.  Without making any promises, under what conditions would you make your attack?

[Digital Hellhound]

So, Terenos, who was only briefly in Miring and definitely not checking out the walls, gets an advantage, but Trubaldsome's men, who are either trained Mirish troops or Mirish locals (plus Aulon's men), don't know the layout of the castle?

And sorry, but Terenos' character is exactly the sort of person who does risky things all the time. I mean, come on, you can't have already forgotten his early-game escapades?

[thatkid]

Wait...you can still do that.

Manning's Crew is ambush-capable. Have them attempt to split the opposing forces with an ambush. If they succeed, they can fight through and attempt to lower the bridge. Maybe...adding to your scaling the walls roll if they succeed?
It's worth asking Iituem if it can be done, anyways.

[Iituem]

Lets break this down.
We're both practically guaranteed to lose some regiments. So hes giving us a chance to retreat with some of what we've got, Or go all in.

-personally- I'd like a break point between the naval battle, and our actual assault so we can -see- that hes upgrading his troops, and hang back.
But since we cant change our attack.
I'm all in. His forces aren't defending the docks. Based on what he says, every damn one of them is on the walls. Knife. Hot butter. I'll kill him and end this. If hes not at the docks, Automatic flank, potential for split forces. Yeah, thats right. Do I potentially die to this? Sure. Do I die to gaming the game? Yeah.

So under the circumstances you described above, you would attack?

[vagel7]

The king just got himself an assassin mage.

[Terenos]

Lets..Just move along. This argument only creates bad feelings all around. There were assumptions made by both sides. A little more clarity could be used in defensive layout knowledge...Its just easier to move forward and learn from this. Knowing that the docks do not confer the advantage I thought they would, means the risk is too high. Not to my troops, they're expendable, but to myself.

You're right, Digital Hellhound, a casual observer on his path from the castle to the port wouldn't notice solid defenses. I might be a little fuzzy... Even more reason not to risk a full assault.
And how many Mirish locals you reckon ever go into the castle? These are peasants and nobles who were put in place after I massacred the court.

[Iituem]

By all rights, I should just force this attack.  I'm too nice, so I'm not going to.  I am going to give Trubaldsome/Aulon a slight bonus because of the last minute OOC tactics changes and because I am feeling very angry right now.  They also have a chance to change their actions, since that's what you're doing.

Do not pull this shit again with me, any of you, or I will Wrath of the Gods on that player and everybody on his side.

Edit:  Little bit calmer now.  Still going to give Aulon/Trubaldsome a chance to rewrite their actions before I make the post, since you'll be doing that as well.  Now I'm going to take 15 minutes and get a drink and when I come back I'll sort out the post and then start work on the New Year post after it.

Edit 2:  I've already done the naval battle, I wrote it before this whole debacle started up.  Since that was still part of Terenos' intent, it holds.

Edit 3:  Apologies to Terenos & Taric for the outburst.  You're both good players and it's always been a lot of fun playing with you.  I had scenarios pre-written in basic form for all three outcomes of the battle (Victory, Defeat, Stalemate) and it annoyed me having to change it, so I kind of lost my temper back there.  We all good?

[Terenos]

Yeah, we're good. You'll still likely get to use those after all, Nothings over yet. All this changes is that hes still under siege. And his navy is gone.
He could decide to attack us and bust out.

[Digital Hellhound]

I've retconned the upgrades from earlier. And posted.

[Taricus]

Yeah, we're cool. Still I know what a couple of replacement characters could be

[ashton1993]

Spoiler: Digital's post (click to show/hide)

'Damn this.' Aulon growled. 'Damn this all. I don't want to die. Trubaldsome might want to die in some pointless last stand, but I have no intention of doing that.'

He jumped up from his seat and grabbed the nearest guard by the collar. 'Gather the men. The King's orders. We march out and show the murderous rabble outside what Mirish men are made of.' Not waiting for his answer, yl Marchis strode over to the wounded Asate. He lowered his gaze as his master approached. He had offered to kill himself for his failure, but Aulon had refused. He still had use for him.

'Spread the word. Those bastards outside will pay for what they've done. The King wills it.'

Aulon continued along the way, shouting his message out to everyone willing to heard. Within seconds, the castle courtyards had exploded with activity. Freshly-trained, bloodthirsty men began to gather around him. This was it. It could go either way now. Either they broke through, or Taric's men massacred them and took the castle. It didn't matter. They couldn't hold the castle for much longer in any case, with the naval battle raging on in the harbor.

Aulon found himself whispering a prayer to the Bright One as he made his way to his quarters to retrieve his armor. He might soon see if the texts were right, and he'd find eternal glory in the Sun.

Aulon leads the forces of Miring out of the castle at Taric's men!

I love you  back to my artwork!

P.S: what does your guy look like? Troubldasome looks sorta like this guy http://freethoughtalmanac.com/?p=1064, Terenos like some rougish lord with hair slicked back and taric I've not got to yet

[Digital Hellhound]

A richer version of Trubaldsome with more Middle Eastern features should be good.

[Taricus]

I'd think it may be more italian, if only due to the storm coast's culture...

[Iituem]

For some reason I've always imagined Terenos as wearing a red floppy hat and red greatcoat, and maybe having long brown hair tied into a ponytail.  That reason is probably because I got influenced by Terenos' old avatar picture.

Don't forget Trubaldsome's signature green hat with feather!

[Terenos]

Well that is what my character looked like in his last iteration. Giant red floppy hat, so on..yeah..Those were the days.. *wistful memory*

See, you get your ridiculous battle anyways.