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[Lysabild]

Still a long way from the super-soldiers, sadly.

[Oliolli]

I've been thinking of starting a fort dedicated to ‼science‼ on attribute degrading. Now I feel like I have no choice.

Especially after

If we could shape a dwarf's personality, then, well, I'd be terrified of that power to actually change who a dwarf was inside.  We'd be beyond mere evil masterminds, we'd be into the realm of Orwell and other Very Dark Areas.  I don't think we could be trusted with such dark power.  I mean, look at us.  You give us a young child and a puppy, and we produce, possibly, one of the biggest sins against nature the game has ever seen.  Give us a mermaid and a patch of dry land, and mothers are trying to get their children off of the computer and into church.  We really, really don't need the power to change personalities.  That's just... that leaves a bad taste in MY mouth...

I am a horrible person...

[DrPoo]

I hope there will be a feature added so you can designate any creature in the playing field for experimentation, even a dwarf.
Then you can enter a Aim/Wrestle like menu where you can choose "Incision at lower body" for example, to spill out their guts, then "draw fluid from: guts" and they will take a sample.
This way a player with sufficient medical knowlegde could save his favorite dwarf from things that NPC dwarf docters cant. Or horribly mutilate his prisoners to a point where they have no feelings and send them to guard the deepest part of your dungeon. If you could inject different substances into people too, it would rock. Like causing a psychosis to a useless immigrant to change his personality.

[Wannazzaki]

I hope there will be a feature added so you can designate any creature in the playing field for experimentation, even a dwarf.
Then you can enter a Aim/Wrestle like menu where you can choose "Incision at lower body" for example, to spill out their guts, then "draw fluid from: guts" and they will take a sample.
This way a player with sufficient medical knowlegde could save his favorite dwarf from things that NPC dwarf docters cant. Or horribly mutilate his prisoners to a point where they have no feelings and send them to guard the deepest part of your dungeon. If you could inject different substances into people too, it would rock. Like causing a psychosis to a useless immigrant to change his personality.

Brilliant! It would be like playing that game where you need to pull random things out of a hobo clown and not touch the edges...OPERATION! That's it. Except it doesn't BLEEP, it screams. I'm going to go for a cold shower. And by that i mean slake my own lust for torture on some goblins with a scalpel and half a bottle of rooster sauce.

[monk12]

I shudder to think of the !!SCIENCE!! that will accompany the personality rewrite. I also laugh, but mostly it's shuddering.

[Oliolli]

It's fairly simple: DFHack a number of dwarves to have the exact same personality attributes, split them into multiple groups and close all of them into small units, supplied from above. One or two control groups who do nothing but socialize, the others socialize and occasionally see an animal/baby fall into the room and explode, traumatizing them. Some may be alone, watching the animals die just for them. Then, later, we check if their attributes have changed and how. Compare all the test applicants to one template dwarf.

[NRDL]

It's fairly simple: DFHack a number of dwarves to have the exact same personality attributes, split them into multiple groups and close all of them into small units, supplied from above. One or two control groups who do nothing but socialize, the others socialize and occasionally see an animal/baby fall into the room and explode, traumatizing them. Some may be alone, watching the animals die just for them. Then, later, we check if their attributes have changed and how. Compare all the test applicants to one template dwarf.

It's unsettling how...surgical and precise it all is. 

[Vahir]

I hope there will be a feature added so you can designate any creature in the playing field for experimentation, even a dwarf.
Then you can enter a Aim/Wrestle like menu where you can choose "Incision at lower body" for example, to spill out their guts, then "draw fluid from: guts" and they will take a sample.
This way a player with sufficient medical knowlegde could save his favorite dwarf from things that NPC dwarf docters cant. Or horribly mutilate his prisoners to a point where they have no feelings and send them to guard the deepest part of your dungeon. If you could inject different substances into people too, it would rock. Like causing a psychosis to a useless immigrant to change his personality.

Or, as an alternative, have an entirely new mode, in which you can modify the world as you see fit. Your fortress is too small? Add more dwarves! Want to make a noble suffer? Remove his esophage!

[FluidDynamite]

I hope there will be a feature added so you can designate any creature in the playing field for experimentation, even a dwarf.
Then you can enter a Aim/Wrestle like menu where you can choose "Incision at lower body" for example, to spill out their guts, then "draw fluid from: guts" and they will take a sample.
This way a player with sufficient medical knowlegde could save his favorite dwarf from things that NPC dwarf docters cant. Or horribly mutilate his prisoners to a point where they have no feelings and send them to guard the deepest part of your dungeon. If you could inject different substances into people too, it would rock. Like causing a psychosis to a useless immigrant to change his personality.

Or, as an alternative, have an entirely new mode, in which you can modify the world as you see fit. Your fortress is too small? Add more dwarves! Want to make a noble suffer? Remove his esophage!

Bah, why stop at removing? It'd be even more fun to be able to add organs. I say we remove the noble's guts and replace it with sheep guts, and see how long he lives.

Wait, what are we talking about again?

[Ivir_Baggins]

This makes me despair for the fate of humanity.


That's why I love reading this thread.
What happened to the turkey idea, anyway?

[Oliolli]

This makes me despair for the fate of humanity.

I have some good bad news: we're a minority.

[kaian-a-coel]

Experimenting on which animal will better fit for utterly traumatizing babies, covering them on scars, and eventually recolt a (you hope) dreadful, wrecked creature you plan to unleash on your ennemies.

Never in any world someone tried this before.

You are so sick and mad you put maddest scientists to shame.



I love you guys.

[BastiBasti]

Has anyone actually tried this yet? We just seem to be discussing mods idears now...

[Naryar]

I'll try this, and will frequently update what I get. I have actually tried a lesser form of this

So I need a bed, statues, engravings, a quantum stockpile of prepared meals and booze, a child, and a female dog (or egg-layer, or cavy) in a room ?

And next version, not only this, but we will be able to make them BOTH vampires and werebadgers, inflict them with all sorts of psycho serums (who cares about mental stats other than Spatial Sense, Kinesthetic Sense and Willpower for a warrior ?) and release them on our enemies ?

MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[BastiBasti]

Good! Finally seeing some !!SCIENCE!! around here.

P.S. our warriers, as a final test get to band together... against a forgotten beast! I know its a bit pansty, but the real challenge will come onece their in our army